Jill and Jessa counting on

[Emochild]

Firstly Jill has really not dealt with the whole Josh situation and I don't blame her given the 'counselling' she received

Secondly -what happened to Derrick's face?

[AlwaysNC]

I'm guessing if her sister has called her baby Israel, and made such a song and dance about it to the world, she thought she couldn't go with a "normal" name like charlie. Jessa and Jill seem to want to one up each other/never got along famously.
Poor Anna living in a room full of little girls when she's had her own house for 5 years. And having to be fucking cheerful all the time. They're all trained to be smiley even when sad as its disrespectful to show anything else. No wonder they are all messed up.

[howtorebuild]

The adoption thing is all about virtue signalling to others. Tessa will always be pregnant or have too young a baby to actually adopt, you watch.

Do they own feelings? All they talk about is practical things they did, do or plan to do.

[iamdivergent]

I assume the girls are using birth control. Does the area where jill is have Zika?

[DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen]

Why would you assume that?

I quite like the name Israel

[OreosOreosOreos]

I would assume no birth control as it goes against the whole 'letting God decide how many children we have' thing

[DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen]

Yes exactly, that's what I think too.

[iamdivergent]

Just with the Zika thing I would have thought. El Salvador has a level 2 alert in place currently.

[howtorebuild]

How has Jill not become pregnant again after a year, when she had a honeymoon baby, if not using contraception? Did God speak to her heart and tell her to hold off on more children for now? Is Derek putting something on the end of it?

[DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen]

They haven't had sex very often in the last year?

They practise the rhythm method?

It's only a year, not long at all

[howtorebuild]

She needed a year to recover from the C-section, learn Spanish, occasionally hang out at some Christian centre and avoid the consequences of a Zika pregnancy. If Derek wore condoms, Jill won't have put hormones in her body or done any wrong in her parents eyes.

[iamdivergent]

Wonder what tonight's episode will bring?

[DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen]

Oh God, they're banging on about adoption AGAIN!

It's not like there's a history of addition in their family, is there? I find the whole thing really odd.

Ben DOES look stoned!!

I really don't like babies being left to sleep on sofas, it was always drummed into me to keep one hand on the baby and if you couldn't reach what you wanted with the other hand then you took baby with you - unless baby was on the floor.

[howtorebuild]

Jill nearly suffocating Israel in the sling, Ben overheating Spurgeon and Jessa leaving an advanced baby on the sofa.

[DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen]

I know

[iamdivergent]

Anna "joking" about her husband not being able to watch the baby so she had to bring Meridith to coffee was a bit odd/off too.

[YellowShockedFace]

I watch to watch this but I can't find it on YouTube and don't have sky tv.

[DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen]

I know, I noticed that too! Also pretty ironic she joked about Jessa checking Ben's social media accounts to see what he's been up to.

Poor woman.

[iamdivergent]

She is very insecure - and rightly so I suppose. I don't know if I could trust him again in those circumstances.

Not sure it's available anywhere else, it's on sky that we are watching.

[AStreetcarNamedBob]

I'm watching it on sky but I wonder of any episodes are on the TLC website?

[DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen]

Probably on YouTube.

[AlwaysNC]

They're fairly hot at deleting it from YouTube for the current series. The only ones I've seem are someone shakily holding a camera at their TV!

Poor Anna, I just want to tell her to leave the kids room and get her own place. The older guys get to live independant lives, why does Jana have to wait at home until she's married. So sad.

"The baby" how detached can they sound?

[AlwaysNC]

Joy saying she was trying to grow out of being a tom boy and be more like a woman is expected to be

[AlwaysNC]

Jon David is allowed to live alone in his own house, but the girls have to stay at home and wait to move when they are married

[iamdivergent]

Bizarre customs. Did Josh live on his own before marriage? I can't remember.

[howtorebuild]

Josh lived at home until marriage.

Poor Joy.