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beowolf? is it just a copy of GOT

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BrandNewAndImproved · 03/01/2016 19:14

The opening bit of the hands shaking and things turning just felt like they were copying GOT and beowolf looks surprisingly like snow (but not as nice).

Anyone else watching?

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AuntieStella · 03/01/2016 19:52

I thought it was more of a follow on from the film, visually.

AuntieStella · 03/01/2016 19:53

That's the 2007 film I mean, not any of the many others.

If also like LOTR, all we can say is that GOT is hopelessly derivative.

OriginalSinner · 03/01/2016 19:54

In The original theyre terrified of the beast that comes and ravages the hall at night and are happy BigB is back and ready to take it on. There aren't any women mentioned as I recall! I'd be happy to be told otherwise though!

PuppyMonkey · 03/01/2016 19:59

The 2007 film was that weird animation though wasn't it? Confused

We all know GoT isn't that original, we get it. But if you watch the opening titles for GoT (which are quite unique IMHO) and then you watch the opening titles for this, they are very very similar.

OriginalSinner · 03/01/2016 20:00

Is the film worth watching?

Destinysdaughter · 03/01/2016 22:04

Has no one read the '7 Basic Plots'?

Most of what we watch today and think is new has already been done many, many times before! Just revamped for today's concerns.

BuildMoreHouses · 03/01/2016 22:06

If I read it it would free up a lot of time!

expatinscotland · 03/01/2016 22:08

'Is the film worth watching?'

No. It was shit.

Destinysdaughter · 03/01/2016 22:17

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Basic_Plots

If anyone's interested

VashtaNerada · 03/01/2016 22:23

I was Grin at the idea of Beowulf ripping off GOT too! But I get that you presumably mean the way the story's being told not the story itself.

OriginalSinner · 03/01/2016 22:30

Thank you expat that's even more time saved!

Moanranger · 03/01/2016 22:33

Well, it's Beowulf - but not as we know it! I LOVED the cocktail party scene - v 800 AD.
The actual story it tedious to modern ears - I remember wading thru it at around 16 ( it's written in Anglo Saxon, so natch it is now read in translation.)
There are 3 basic plot lines: Beowulf kills Grendel ( the beast); Beowulf kills Grendels ma); Beowulf slays a dragon but dies in the process. End of.
Not much to flesh out a 21cent TV programme, hence the cocktail parties, females in improbable roles ( for 8 cent), Mad Max hairdos & make up, etc.

OriginalSinner · 03/01/2016 22:36

Slow TV may be where the future lies and they could have tried it with a load of empty moorland and empty hall shots.

expatinscotland · 03/01/2016 22:38

'hence the cocktail parties, females in improbable roles ( for 8 cent), Mad Max hairdos & make up, etc.'

Yeah. There weren't a lot of talkative women and female blacksmiths in the poem, IIRC. A lot of language describing armour, weapons and fighting.

The best of these old poems has to be Njal's Saga. One of the characters gets a talkative wife. Naturally, he slaps the shit out of her. She complains to her brothers. They answer along of the lines of he obviously didn't beat her hard enough if she is still opening her mouth and send her back to him.

Years later, her husband's enemies surround them. Time for a hall burning! The women and children, however, can leave (to become the enemies new wives, whores, slaves, whatever). The talkative wife's husband tells her to cut off her long, blonde plait and give it to him, so he can use it as a rope to escape.

She tells him she now avenges herself of the beating her gave her and leaves him to burn.

Oooo!

OriginalSinner · 03/01/2016 22:47

Sounds like my sort of dame.

expatinscotland · 03/01/2016 22:53

You didn't see a lot of talky women in these old poems, lais and sagas. And certainly not very many who defied their husbands, considering that honour killing was not only legal but expected in many cultures then.

Even Queen Elizabeth I would have been considered her husband's chattel had she married. As for Dudley, he praised his second wife (his first died quite mysteriously) for being first and foremost, 'good and obedient.'

There was a lot of emphasis on obedience.

expatinscotland · 03/01/2016 22:56

The bolshy ones seldom come to good, either. Kriemhild, in the earlier versions, is hacked to death. Iseult comes to a bad end. There's another old Breton one featuring a woman who commits adultery, they both end up dead.

The fact is that most of these stories don't translate well because precious few women would have even thought of back chatting a man, refusing to have sex with her husband or capitulating to him in any way.

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