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HOMELAND- Is that a cucumber Quinn or are you pleased to see us? NO SPOILERS PLEASE WE'RE BRITISH

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TheSpottedZebra · 15/11/2015 21:03

Da.

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Hassled · 29/11/2015 22:24

There were gas mask type things under the bed in Serbia, is that right? So some sort of chemical warfare attack planned in Berlin? Quinn needs to go to Banana Joe's and drink a Daquiri or two - there's a man who badly needs some time off.

waitingforgodot · 29/11/2015 22:25

good episode-still trying to work it all out!

Cocolepew · 29/11/2015 22:32

But but why would Hair go with Ahmed when he double crossed her? I know hes a hottie but still..

PseudoBadger · 29/11/2015 22:33

He probably went with his new wife

Howaboutthisone · 29/11/2015 22:36

So many questions now!
Why didn't Hair have Carrie killed when she had the chance? (or at least an attempt that had to go wrong for the sake of the series)
Why did they take Quinn with them to get the chemicals anyway? Or is that because they also thought he was a spy after seeing his amazing kill moves on Hajik (?) so they wanted to keep him close?
Is Saul's Israeli friend also now double crossing him as the woman said he was fine there until morning?

I quite enjoyed the flashbacks too. Nice to see what happened for Hair to turn. Though she was a bad 'un anyway as she was about to scarper with the money!

Howaboutthisone · 29/11/2015 22:37

Oh and what is During up to? I knew there was more to him but who is he in with?! Is he actually a German spook?!

TheSpottedZebra · 29/11/2015 22:42

Yes, I think that The Ivans would have no qualms about finishing Carrie. It was only last week that some Ivans were shooting at her in Amsterdam, and now they suddenly leave it to Hair to decide if she should live?

I don't think we'll see more of Brodie - wasn't the pics on the board a display of prisoners? It said something about getting them back home.

Are they going to tie Quinn to the van and detonate, like he did to that bomb maker in his flat?

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AmberFool · 29/11/2015 22:50

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AmberFool · 29/11/2015 22:51

Is During in love with Carrie and trying to keep her away from Jonas? Maybe when she turns to him for help (yet again), he'll lock her up in his country home. I don't know why, but I can't help thinking he will do something deranged.

I love that line when Carrie and Hair are meeting at the cafe?

Hair: Who is helping you?
Carrie: No one.
Hair: Really?
Carrie: Yes
Hair: How can I reach you?
Carrie: Through Otto During.

BitOfFun · 29/11/2015 22:52

I think Hair let Carrie live because she feels guilty- "no more bodies!"

I can understand why she was tempted by the money- she obviously likes the finer things in life- but I'm puzzled why somebody so devious couldn't extricate herself from the blackmail plot by the Russians. Surely she could have spun some story to her CIA bosses about trying to keep hold of her asset, and used the fact the Russians thought she was in their pocket to the CIA's advantage? She just caved so quickly.

Roonerspism · 29/11/2015 22:53

So (hot) Ahmed went on holiday anyway.....

Quinn hasnt had a great time of it. Why would they bother taking him to get weapons and back?

Is next week's the last?

BitOfFun · 29/11/2015 22:53

Amberfool Grin

BitOfFun · 29/11/2015 23:00

Quinn had told them they were under 24-hour surveillance, so it's possible they took him along to confuse the Americans and lead them to believe that Syria is the target rather than Berlin?

pootlebug · 29/11/2015 23:01

During fancies Carrie so is feeding Jonas the 'she's so unstable' lines to keep him away.

Presumably the terrorists realised Quinn is an agent so told him all the Syria crap so he'd tell his bosses and all the intelligence would suggest an attack in Syria rather than Berlin.

I have no idea why the fuck Ahmed would go on holiday to that bar though. That bit makes no sense at all.

Bit bemused about Hair - is she going soft? Not so long ago she was very happy to put Carrie's name in Quinn's hit list. It would be much easier to just get the Russians to shoot her, surely?

Lweji · 29/11/2015 23:05

Amberfool

I was thinking the same as soon as she said Otto.
Hair is an experienced interrogator...

BitOfFun · 29/11/2015 23:07

She was genuinely upset when she saw the photograph of Carrie "dead" though, wasn't she? I think she does have some humanity. I know what you mean though, she's a bit inconsistent.

Lweji · 29/11/2015 23:07

I can see why they'd take Quinn for the first part, but why take him back?
I'd just kill him and bury him actually lock him in my basement and keep him for my pleasure and nobody would ever find out. At least not while it mattered.

Lweji · 29/11/2015 23:09

Hair could easily have become a triple agent, yes, but would they ever trust her all the way up to CIA director?

BitOfFun · 29/11/2015 23:16

Thinking more about the Baghdad Bob, I reckon WipsGlitter is probably right- the fact she was so relatively scruffy despite being a woman who covets a bit of glamour just shows how hard the conditions were there. There was a real sense of worn-out cynicism about her at the end of her tenure there, drinking warm whisky and desperate to bin her dusty clothes. You can sort of see why the idea of $8 million and endless daiquiris turned her head.

SurlyCue · 29/11/2015 23:20

I have to say i'm getting increasingly bored with each episode. It is very 'batman' as someone upthread said. Why are they being so lazy?? I miss the old days when Carrie had a terrorist in a room and took turns with Saul to interrogate them. No fucking lip wobbling back in them days. She was the dog's doodahs.

Brodie might be back in a flashback episode with Hair and her Baghdad bob.

here's hoping. Lets face it, its the only reason to keep on watching, A flashback of a dead terrorist- that's saying a lot.

northender · 29/11/2015 23:21

Really enjoyed tonight's episode. How many are left?

SiegeofEnnis · 29/11/2015 23:39

I thought tonight was a bit silly, with all the bad-haired, boozy flashbacks and Spycraft 101 in churches (yes, how many churches were easily accessible in downtown warzone Baghdad?) and the Ivan clearly rather disappointed he'd gone to the trouble of finding a nice attic and then wasn't allowed to off Carrie. Quinn is having a really crap season, and if we're to believe the Lip Wibble, Carrie thought Hair was a good'un. Which blows all my long play theories out of the water...

And I thought Hair's online handbag shopping was going to be some kind of code (click on the Birkin to order a hit) before I realised she is supposed to be that stuff-obsessed. Are we really supposed to think her bad hair and terrible jackets in Baghdad made her switch sides, out of lust for $4 mill of handbags and hairdos?

Oh, and what language did she exclaim in when Ivan came in first? Sounded Russian-ish, but why?

Maybe Jonas will turn out to be a Mossad double agent or something.

Lweji · 29/11/2015 23:48

Surly, maybe they'll get the chance of interrogating Hair. Preferably in a dark cellar somewhere.

BitOfFun · 30/11/2015 00:08

I liked seeing perky, optimistic Carrie in flashback, all ready and chomping at the bit to make a difference. The transformation from that to her current lip-wobbling disillusion is just a consequence of everything she's been through, I suppose, and the fact that she's a mother now and less hungry for singlehandedly making the world safe for a democracy that creates as many problems as it solves.

SurlyCue · 30/11/2015 00:11

Surly, maybe they'll get the chance of interrogating Hair. Preferably in a dark cellar somewhere

Ooohhhh! I'd definitely stick about to see that. That would be good.

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