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Surely someone else is watching??

Found last weeks episode really interesting, am watching tonights on catch up....

I'm watching on catch up too

Finding the diagnosis of autism in the little girl Jessie really interesting, it is all so subtle. Slightly frustrated to see a dummy in her mouth again at diagnosis day!!

I think Bobbys mum is half the problem with his food issues, she seems really anxious herself.

There was an interesting thread on last week's but I think it was deleted.

Oh I didn't know that, dare I ask why it got deleted?

I am watching for the first time. I am finding the food issues difficult to watch as i have a food issue very similar to bobby's and it is bringing back all the emotions i went through as a child with very frustrated parents. Even watching it now i can feel myself gagging when they suggest he eat a poppadom. So glad they are making progress, for me the pressure to eat/try something was immense and i couldnt have tried anything new infront of anyone. I use to sneak fruit to try in secret and then deny taking it to avoid any attention being brought to it or having to answer the question "well did you like it?" With a no (because i couldnt swallow it) and see the disappointed and frustrated response from my mum. I have progressed a great deal since childhood but still not a good diet. I really do wish i could just eat.

Surlycue I have some food issues myself and ate a very limited diet as a child. I am better now than I used to be but like you it could still be better!!

I think with Bobby the parents had issues with stressing Bobby out so went down the route of least resistance iyswim. I would be interested to know what the background was, how he was weaned etc.

I found Jessies mums reaction to the diagnosis really emotional. My dd has some sensory issues which are only now being assessed age 9yo, but watching this programme makes me wonder if she is on the spectrum but just very good at hiding some of the issues.

Yes bobby's mum was clearly anxious (understandably-but not helpful) and she let bobby see it. I can totally see why but it will be a massive factor in bobby's anxiety around food.

in watching now,

i've just been watching too, and found the tactile way in which the speech therapist did her analysis very interesting. Jessie was very headstrong at times.

the peripheral vision thing was interesting not many would have picked up on that.

I thought it was really interesting how the GP didn't really pick up many of the problems with Jessie but it was the speech therapist who did. They were very subtle issues and it was only when you put them all together you could see there was something going on.

Really interesting. I sympathise with Jessie's mother. When DS2 was diagnosed we were just completely in shock, even though we knew it was coming. Just hope the autism team where they live is good. Reading the SEN pages on Mumsnet makes you realise that provision is still patchy.

I watched this last night. The SALT was excellent - it would have been so easy to blame it all on the dummy and the point about the subtle signs in girls not being picked up was fascinating.

It's interesting but I am irritated as it is so formulaic and the Paediatrician and GP (who is pretty useless) make such obvious comments as though they are revealing something really important. Not sure why they have to show us the meeting of the professionals and then the GP tripping out to meet the parents and taking them in - I'd prefer that to be cut and more "meat" to the programme. The speech and language therapist was good in the last episode.

I think Bobby's parents were irresponsible in letting him eat all that chocolate. I'm a fussy eater and so have some sympathy and my grandson would love nothing better than to eat chocolate and sweets for every meal but thank goodness he has sensible parents. I got the impression that Bobby was a bit "spoiled" - but he made some progress.

Don't know if anyone saw a programme that was on some years ago "House of Tiny Tearaways" with the Clinical Psychologist Dr Tanya Byron - she was magic, and worked with the parents as well as the children. You can't really expect a Paediatrician and GP to have an expertise in child behaviours as this is the province of clinical psychologists and play therapists.

It doesn't surprise me that GP's don't pick up on anything, they rarely do. I've had two dc go through the diagnostic process for autism and all GP's seen were clueless about autism but luckily took my word for it and made requested referrals. There will actually be a training scheme implemented to train GPs as there's a real lack of awareness.

My dc were diagnosed by multi disciplinary teams over a 6 month period and the SLT who really made it happen for dd as she was harder to diagnose than ds, girls often hide their symptoms well so it's harder to spot. The SLT was brilliant though, she observed dd in school and saw everything.

I agree that GPs are not clued up on Autism. When I told my GP my son had been diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome he expressed his condolences and said he was sorry he didn't know much about it and had only one other patient in the Practice who had it.
Luckily we had gone through the Educational Psychologist and Community Paediatrician so no input was required from the GP.

I found it really interesting yet it's so sad that these kids got fast tracked and a diagnosis and therefore help and yet others will get fobbed off and parents have to beg for help. Lovely that these children got the help they need.

They had to expose themselves to the nation to be judged in order to get that fast track though and as we know negative judgment and criticism of such conditions is alive and kicking, often right here on MN.

Oh I know Nikki, it's just such a shame the help isn't readily available for all children who need it.

yea i was expressing concerns from 18 mths ,began assessment at 2 and formal diagnosis finalised at nearly 4, and still because hes higher functioning hes getting basically 0 support.

Couldn't agree more . I got very lucky with my dc. We had an amazing SENCO who simply wouldn't take no for an answer for ds and a GP who took my word for it with dd. he said "given your family history with your ds, I think you know what you're talking about" and made the referral immediately. I have friends who have been struggling to even get referred for years.

I got so frustrated with Bobby's parents when he ate the poppadom. Talk about tension.

I think it was Bobbys mum that was the issue, I would be amazed if she didn't have some issues with food herself. I agree that giving him all the sweets and chocolate was crazy imo, I am amazed that the school let him get away with the kind of pack lunch he was taking in as well!

Although having not been in that situation maybe I can't judge. I know as a fussy child myself I would have loved to live on a diet on sweets and chocolate though!!