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The paedophile hunter

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JazzAnnNonMouse · 03/10/2014 19:40

Did anyone watch this?

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NanaNina · 03/10/2014 22:13

Yes I just watched it - am amazed - I thought there would be pages and pages of posts! I'm not usually in favour of vigilantes but I ended up thinking the bloke in the doc was doing far more good than harm. I was frankly shocked at what these blokes were sending to "young girls" - utterly sick making. What I don't understand is why can't the police do the same as this bloke - surely it can't be that difficult - we've seen how easy it is to do simply with a smart phone.

The ex wife of the man who took his life said her child had been left without a father, but what mother would entrust her child to a paedophile. I try to understand all human behaviour but the way in which the male ego can drive them to such debauchery is I'm afraid beyond me.

The bloke in the doc (can't recall his name) obviously provides the police with enough evidence for the CPS to agree that the police can charge the suspect, so what's the problem. I wondered why they all got suspended sentences. I suppose it's because they didn't actually get to sexually abuse a child, but only because they were prevented.

I don't think the pictures should be put on FB though.

Be interested in other's opinions/views

cruikshank · 03/10/2014 22:15

When was it on? Is it available on catch up?

NanaNina · 03/10/2014 22:26

Yes I just watched it - am amazed - I thought there would be pages and pages of posts! I'm not usually in favour of vigilantes but I ended up thinking the bloke in the doc was doing far more good than harm. I was frankly shocked at what these blokes were sending to "young girls" - utterly sick making. What I don't understand is why can't the police do the same as this bloke - surely it can't be that difficult - we've seen how easy it is to do simply with a smart phone.

The ex wife of the man who took his life said her child had been left without a father, but what mother would entrust her child to a paedophile. I try to understand all human behaviour but the way in which the male ego can drive them to such debauchery is I'm afraid beyond me.

The bloke in the doc (can't recall his name) obviously provides the police with enough evidence for the CPS to agree that the police can charge the suspect, so what's the problem. I wondered why they all got suspended sentences. I suppose it's because they didn't actually get to sexually abuse a child, but only because they were prevented.

I don't think the pictures should be put on FB though.

Be interested in other's opinions/views

NanaNina · 03/10/2014 22:28

Sorry for duplicate post. It was on Wed this week 10 pm Channel 4 and yes it's available on catch up. I just watched it tonight.

DioneTheDiabolist · 03/10/2014 22:31

There was another thread which was somewhat derailed by someone who didn't watch the show.

I watched it on 47 last night. I found it fascinating and insightful and was really surprised. I think the Home Office and police force should watch it. There were many lessons to be learnt.

cruikshank · 03/10/2014 22:35

Thanks, NanaNina, it sounds very interesting. I think I'll take a look.

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JazzAnnNonMouse · 04/10/2014 07:10

Nananina I share you're opinions pretty much. I wonder whether police would outsource this type of thing? I guess that's a step towards privatisation though Confused

I'm a bit on the fence about posting it on Facebook.

Would someone be able to link to the other thread please? I did have a look for one but couldn't see it. I would've been surprised if there wasn't one!

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NanaNina · 04/10/2014 14:08

My IT skills are very limited Jazz so can't do the link thing but I'd be surprised too if there wasn't another thread.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 05/10/2014 15:40

I'm watching on catch up now, will report back laterSmile

douchbag · 05/10/2014 15:46

I really want to watch it but it's a bit close to home for me Confused

Vivacia · 05/10/2014 16:09

I thought it was fascinating, by the time I'd watched it the original thread had gone crazy. Having watched the whole thing, I was decidedly against the vigilantes.

Vivacia · 05/10/2014 16:10

Sorry, was decidedly against the vigilantism. I had a great deal of sympathy for the vigilantes themselves.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 05/10/2014 16:20

This has made my mind up that this approach should be carried out by police only but it DOES need to be done and NEEDS to be done NOW.

Vivacia · 05/10/2014 17:19

The police don't make up their policing priorities from the air though. They spend their time and money on the things that the public want which is presumably catching murderers and rapists and local neighbourhood policing. We want to see our bobbies on the beat.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 05/10/2014 18:45

I'm not sure it's an either/or situation. People want murderers and rapists caught and also pedophiles.

Vivacia · 05/10/2014 19:40

Well, I know that, hence me mentioning three alternatives Confused

sammy90 · 05/10/2014 20:07

So surprise that there wasn't a bigger thread about this. This Stinson hunter is amazing and the police should be more willing to help him. There should be more of a communication between to make the efforts of Stinson hunter more worth him while as he trying to protect our children just like the police are ment to be doing. Sorry I have to say Im very glad that the pics are being posted to the public as the most of these animals are getting suspended sentences and not serving any time and then the public and neighbours of this creature won't have and idea, then have they children talking to this thanks to people like this they keep are family safe.

Vivacia · 05/10/2014 20:35

I think Stinson needs to feel heard and I think he needs support to really get past his background (all aspects of it). I don't want men being judge and jury and taking the law in to their own hands.

NanaNina · 05/10/2014 20:55

Vivacia I am a bit puzzled by your comment that you are against vigilantism but had sympathy for the vigilantes. Can you explain what you mean. You mention that you think police spend their time catching murderers and rapists and neighbourhood policing. I think you'll find that the figures for crime detection are incredibly low - around 30% I think, dependent on the geographical area.

I think the biggest problem for the police is the excessive amount of paperwork with which they are faced. This is in common with all other employees of public services, e.g. teachers, social workers, nurses, doctors etc. and in my view this is because the govt don't trust these people to be competent enough to carry out their jobs. SO they insist on ridiculous tick box exercises as evidence that certain tasks have been carried out. I think for the police this is definitely the case - I saw a programme about this fairly recently and it was made clear that in an 8 hour shift if someone was arrested for a fairly minor offence (possession of cannabis for own use) that would take the PC off the beat for the remainder of his/her shift because of processing the suspect and completion of the paperwork. Crazy!

Also the police have targets to meet (which employees, private or public) don't these days! And that's another issue as they need to try to maintain their targets, so they will (on their own admission) pick up a kid for possession of a small amount of an illegal drug, knowing that they can tick the right box and maintain their targets. Crazy again!

I think the Stinson Hunter's motivation was clearly related to his past experience of being sexually abused and whilst I can see he was well motivated, I can also see that there could be some very ugly scenes and violence if the vigilantes are seen following a paedophile (as we saw in the programme - a crowd had gathered but the police car drew up) so that of course would cause more problems for the police and I can't say I'm in favour of summary justice. Maybe this is what you meant Vivacia

Vivacia · 05/10/2014 21:05

Vivacia I am a bit puzzled by your comment that you are against vigilantism but had sympathy for the vigilantes. Can you explain what you mean.

Yes, but I think I've been fairly clear Nina. I had sympathy for the men because of their disadvantaged lives and upbringing.

However I have a big problem with unregulated, unmonitored groups of men exercising this amount of power and threat. And what the fuck was all of that stuff about dog-beating?

Vivacia · 05/10/2014 21:08

(My point about the police was merely that they have limited resources).

Icelollycraving · 06/10/2014 09:42

I watched it yesterday with dh. Made me feel really revolted & upset. That man who went to see an 11 year old disabled girl. He wasn't charged but I suspect he's on the radar now.

BettyMoody · 06/10/2014 09:44

oh i thought the BLOKE was well weird.
With his crap faux offical speak " sit down sir we don't want no hostilities' and his weirdo hench people and role as judge and jury.

think there was a lot of weirdness in HIS background, get a bloody job you nut and stop making yourself feel better by dwelling on other peoples crapness

BettyMoody · 06/10/2014 09:45

the suspended sentence will be with conditions attached ( this is often NOT reported) - so maybe to attend 3 years of the Thames Valley Sex Offenders programme

OTherwise with a guilty plea, sentencing guidelines would have them inside for about a month and then released with NO probation input whatsoever

BettyMoody · 06/10/2014 09:46

He doesnt provide police with evidence. IMO a lot of the texts sent to the offenders smack of possible entrapment maybe? If that can even be used in this offence.