no never - they would never leave the house - it would be 'can I just watch the end of....I just want to watch....'. And I also discovered that ds1's standard of behaviour plummets through the floor if he has tv before about 4 in the afternoon (no idea why, but it's true), and he concentrates much better through the day without having had any tv, then he can just have it for an hour or so after school when he's tired. None of the children ask for it in the morning, because they know it's an afternoon/evening thing in our house.