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HONEY I SUCKLE THE KIDS

24 replies

alexsmum · 31/08/2006 23:05

on now.

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SherlockLGJ · 31/08/2006 23:06

It was on the other night and the fall out was mighty.

alexsmum · 31/08/2006 23:07

i know! just thought anyone who hadn't seen it could catch up!

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misdee · 31/08/2006 23:10

watching th 1st half, pmsl at baby jails

fattiemumma · 31/08/2006 23:11

i missed this the other night and tried to avoid the fall out.....i am watching it now but will refrain from any statement other than....OMG!

fattiemumma · 31/08/2006 23:22

ERRmm....she is such an Au natrel mum and yet she is happy for her 5 year old to have 7up??

misdee · 31/08/2006 23:24

wait for the capri sun later on

fattiemumma · 31/08/2006 23:34

just got to the whole...we tell him when to pee...bit.

they are at home so why are they taking the child to the fornt or back garden to pee?

Im all for the whole no nappies thing if they can do it great for them but whats the problem with taking him to the toilet????

bubble99 · 31/08/2006 23:36

I've just watched the American woman with the 2 sons and the 'no nappy' thing.

She seems to be so enthusiastic about her potty training stuff that she is, I suspect, going to be the MIL from hell if her sons choose non-likeminded wives/partners.

Can you imagine? I clash with my MIL over many things, but nappies are an agreed necessity.

fattiemumma · 31/08/2006 23:37

my kids have been bottle fed, slept in a cot and now in their own room, and wear nappies....they both love me adn know that i love them!

fattiemumma · 31/08/2006 23:42

Isn't it a legal requirement for children over the age of 5 to be in school? and if they are home educated then surely they must be taught following the national curriculem and have to be OFSTED approved?

misdee · 31/08/2006 23:42

this krugar woman annoys me.

fattiemumma · 01/09/2006 00:03

I think the mother who has to carry her 4 year old everywhere is just plain silly. I honestly beleieve she is TOO attached to her child and that the poor girl should be allowed some freedom.

i reallyc ant see why everyone got so riled up about it all though. it was funny in parts and i certainly wouldnt want to do it but they have simply got extremes of people who are doing something that is basicly the way our garnnies used to bring up kids. there's nothing too strange about it....yes these 4 women have taken it to the most whacky but they aren't hurting anyone and its only them that have to pick up the shite.

misdee · 01/09/2006 00:05

american carrying 4 yr old, was mad. totally mad. she annoyed me because she seems so smug about it.

the concept of EC is interesting, but not for me.

alexsmum · 01/09/2006 00:05

very extreme examples.i breastfed my sons and co slept with them.However they both wore /wear nappies !!! thta is one thing i just don't get. what is so awful about nappies???? why shouldn't a baby wear a nappy rather than have a plastic container rammed against it's backside while it feeds? what about whenthey are sleeping? really don't understand the benefit of this.

i also question the parent's assertions that their children are going to be these amazing people when they are older because of the way they've been parented.one woman said her kids will be very sociable-yet they were spending all their time with only their parents.i think they will find it hard being with starngers/new people when they are older.

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fattiemumma · 01/09/2006 00:11

i do get the feeling that the childrenw ill grow up very spoilt. not necessarily by material possesions but will expect mummy to do pretty much whatever they want.

the idea that you would restart BF a 3 year odl becasue she was jealous of the new baby is absurd. surely you would explain that she didt need "booby" (cannot stand the use of that word in young children) becasue she was now a big girl and that the new baby needed the milk now.

allow her to move on to become a happy child rather than allowing her to regress.

i was also finding the hubby a little disturbing with his constant sexualisation of women BF

Joolstoo · 01/09/2006 09:16

caught up with the repeat last night.

Find myself agreeing with fattiemumma.

The American woman with the daughter appears to have serious issues, I fear for that child but more so the mother her attachment seemed very, very intense, thankfully the husband was beginning to see problems let's hope he can do something about it.

Watching the interaction between the children and the parents I didn't see anything 'extra' special in the relationship between parent and child because of AP and tbh I wouldn't be letting a lo call me an idiot and do nothing - there again she may have had a point.

I think it was mentioned on the other thread and I agree that I would like to see follow on programmes when these children are adults.

Overrun · 01/09/2006 12:25

I too deliberately caught up with this programme has it seemed to have caused such a fuss.
I don't have anything against AP per se, but like all vogues it will have its time, there seems to be a pendulum effect with parenting theories. As some one else said lets see how the children turn out.
I can't help feeling that the children in this programme seemed a bit insecure and certainly quite demanding. I suppose a AP would say, wait until they are an adult.
I do think there has to be balance in these things. I suppose I use a mixture of parenting styles with my family, for eg I still bf (dt are 22 months), but don't do it on demand.
We have children in to sleep with us sometimes, but eventually they start sleeping seperately again.
Parents on a mission can sometimes not pick up cues from their children about what they do actually need, because they are so hellbent on following their theory to the letter.
I thought that the British family came across as warm hearted and well meaning, I may not agree with every thing they said, but I liked them. I thought he was nice, and jokes about breastfeeding are probably part and parcel of a family that is dominated by breast feeding. He supports her, what more do you want?
I do agree that the older American woman with the daughter is concerning. She is certainly over attatched imo, hopefully partner will balance this out a bit. I wonder if she chose to only have one, or can't have more. I think being an AP is probably easier with one child, but there might be more pitfuls, like over attatchment.
It does strike me that some of these ideas are based on other cultures who bf and carry children till late ages. While I think bf a western child will do it good still, I just wonder if adopting all of these practices with a western child, who has a relative life of luxury might well cause it problems in the long run. There is no hardship, so as well as getting all of their parents time, they also gets lots of material possessions and advantages. Can one have too priveledged a life?

Jimjams2 · 01/09/2006 12:40

fattiemumma- you said:

"Isn't it a legal requirement for children over the age of 5 to be in school? and if they are home educated then surely they must be taught following the national curriculem and have to be OFSTED approved?"

Nope, it is a legal requirement for children to receive an education "in school or otherwise" , which is why the main home ed organisation in the UK is called Education Otherwise.

The national curriculum is not a requirement outside state schools.

fattiemumma · 01/09/2006 12:41

lol JT - you say you agree with me as if you should be worried

i do agree that the hubby was just joking but it just made me a little uncomfortable....but i guess if your surrounded by womens breasts all day he must do something to make him feel a little macho.

fattiemumma · 01/09/2006 12:43

oh thanks JJ.
i have a freind who is currently trying to fight for her son to be moved schools ( he has AS) but the LEA are making it impossible.

she is currently considering Home Ed but we were under the impression you had to be Ofsted inspected and such....i will definatly pass on that you don't as i thik she is comeing to the end of her tether with the LEA.

Overrun · 01/09/2006 12:43

Argh, doesn't any one have anything to say in response to my post, I put a lot of time into it

alexsmum · 01/09/2006 12:57

overrun- i agree about the carrying etc.
i'm sure that if women in the third world had a pram to push a child in they would. yes women in some cultures b/f till the kids are 5 or whatever, carry them everywhere,don't use nappies but i'll bet the mothers mortality rates are high- dead by 40!
as i said, i co-slept, and b/f'd but i think these women were over the top.

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Joolstoo · 01/09/2006 13:43

"Parents on a mission can sometimes not pick up cues from their children about what they do actually need, because they are so hellbent on following their theory to the letter. "

nail on head!

Jimjams2 · 01/09/2006 15:54

fattiemumma- get her to read "paths are made for walking- home educatiing our autistic spectrum children" published by jessica kinglsey. Lots of case studies (most AS/HFA) and a chapter on all the legal stuff as well. It's very good.

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