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the ashtma programme lst night

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cod · 11/04/2006 14:23

is there a thread already on it/

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drosophila · 11/04/2006 14:24

Haven't seen one. Did you feel guilty about the amount of cleaning you should be doing?

cod · 11/04/2006 14:24

lol
havent got it here but am stunned at the crap people have
and hte fact poeple dont air rooms ( see previous thread)
tis almost the law in germany

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cod · 11/04/2006 14:25

and htey keep the blinkign pets ffs

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oliveoil · 11/04/2006 14:25

details please

PinkTulips · 11/04/2006 14:26

keeping the pets annoyed me too, although i felt sorry for the single mom with three kids working double shifts being yelled at for not coming home at 11pm and hoovering

iota · 11/04/2006 14:27

I have athma - and my cat sleeps on my bed at night - and I don't react to him.

I do react to my friend's dogs though

Me and the new Dyson have been getting closely acquainted today though, after all that cleaning on the prog

cod · 11/04/2006 14:27

SEE THE CHANNLE 4 SITE

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PinkTulips · 11/04/2006 14:28

got to say though, disgusting that they thought washing the bedclothes every week was extra work, shouldn't any normal person be doing that anyway?

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cod · 11/04/2006 14:30

yes they were dirty ont he whole
those sofas sdid look gross

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drosophila · 11/04/2006 14:37

DS has asthma and is allergic to dust mites (blood tests) but he only gets an attack when he has a virus. I agree that the clutter was amazing but I still think the obvious wasn't dealt with (I didn't see the whole programme). Why are dust mites such a problem now? It's not that long ago that kids were sown into there underwear. DP's mother came to London in the 50's and remembers the kids had their pants and vests sown together and rarely changed in winter. Coming from the Caribbean where regular bathing was the norm she couldn't believe the levels of hygiene here.

Why is asthma on the increase?
Why are allergies on the increase?

cod · 11/04/2006 14:38

but d do we knwo that ashtma didnt happen then
or poeple just died of it or sufferd it
also wet washign in houses is bad

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drosophila · 11/04/2006 14:41

True but for some reason this country has the highest rate of asthma. I can't believe that people here are simply the dirtiest when it comes to cleaning their houses. I'm sure there are other countries where there are as many dust mites lurking. Perhaps they are a different species here.

cod · 11/04/2006 14:41

i dunno the germans do have it down to an art form
a dn bad weatehr and no vnetilation etc etc

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PinkTulips · 11/04/2006 14:42

i think alot of kids back then just died of it. child mortality rates were way higher then remember. no inhalers

drosophila · 11/04/2006 14:44

I grew up in Ireland and believe me the weather is as wet as here and they are not any cleaner than here yet the asthma rates are lower. Probably lower levels of polution though.

I think Asthma is very comples as are allergies and to limit the programme to just one aspect really disappointed me.

PinkTulips · 11/04/2006 14:44

houses are alot damper over here. i lived in germany as a kid and there was no such thing practically as damp in a house. windows were opened and heating was better controlled. they're also alot more fanatical about cleaning, and clutter free houses

PinkTulips · 11/04/2006 14:47

agree drodophila, all of those kids had allergies. my dp has true asthma. not allergy related, more stress related. no amount of cleaning helps him and it's unfair to lump allergy sufferers and asthma sufferers into one big pile.

when i was a kid they tried to give me inhalers etc claiming i had asthma. my mom refused as she'd noticed swimming makes me worse. i have a chlorine allergy. she took me out of swim class and i was better in weeks bu they would have had me on inhalers and all that

cod · 11/04/2006 14:55

adn they love din old houses in the programme
but D i agree but it did who you hwo it coudl be hUGELY controlled

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iota · 11/04/2006 15:01

agree that those kids had loads of allergies.

my dusty house and cat on my bed don't seem to affect my asthma - but I do react to things like gloss paint fumes, frying chillies and other people's pets (sometimes)

zebraz · 11/04/2006 15:53

someone on the radio was saying that the "new theory" is that asthma is caused by a virus caught early in life, and then it's just a matter of common triggers (mostly allergies) thru rest of life. So the dust mites (or traffic fumes, or cat hair, etc.) trigger attacks but don't cause the susceptibility in the first place.

iota · 11/04/2006 15:56

that's an intersting theory Zebra - -I didn't have asthma until my mid 30s - I blame it on the pollution ( traffic fumes) in London - it almost disappeared when I moved to the country

zebraz · 11/04/2006 16:05

but maybe you still have the asthma, iota, maybe you always did. You just didn't develop the trigger (allergy) until your mid-30s, then when you moved to country you moved away from the trigger.
I don't know if I can totally believe that theory, I still have a gut feeling there's other environmental causes that would account for the geographic variation... but what do I know?

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