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Dp has ruined deal or no deal

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babyonboard · 06/03/2006 16:45

watched it with him on saturday, an all he could say was 'playing the game? ..it's all just chance', 'think positivly, like thats going to make a difference'tc etc
yes i know it's all based on pure chance, and noel struggles to make it exciting sometimes..but i used to love it..just watching it now and thinking cynical thoughts..lol

at least noel has stopped wearing such high waisted trousers a la simon cowell though...

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Cappucino · 07/03/2006 10:51

I have to agree with your dp there - Noel going 'we want you to give us the £250,000' as if he's playing some complex poker hand to some idiot stood in front of an empty box. Noel should have stayed out to pasture where he was. My mil watches it and I've never seen so much twaddle.

sorry and all that...

Carmenere · 07/03/2006 10:53

Well it's a very basic game of odds which they do well to stretch into a whole programme. I find it mildly entertaining I have to admit but I really have to have an empty day to afford to watch it.

zippitippitoes · 07/03/2006 11:04

I happened to watch this once and thought what a load of rubbish he talks it up as though it had a game play..cannot understand anybody wasting their time with it..mystifying, OI'm sorry

babyonboard · 07/03/2006 13:19

lol- well it entertains me when ds is having his nap...
of course it's bit rubbish, but it's strangly compelling

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Enid · 07/03/2006 13:19

god I have never seen this as I hate noel edmonds so much

it looks AWFUL

Flossam · 07/03/2006 13:23

crinkley bottom at CSThomas Enid? Wink

I'm not a big fan of him, but do actually quite like the programme too. If only to fantacise about winning lots of money.... Grin

cutekids · 07/03/2006 13:31

i didn't "get it" for weeks as i was always doing other things while it was on so only popping in now and again to hear Noel saying things like,"we don't want the £250,000.00".etc.etc.when i did eventually work it out, started really enjoying it for a bit of light entertainment and my six year old son is brilliant at it!!!

flutterbee · 07/03/2006 13:33

Sorry you grumpy lot but I really like it.

Posey · 07/03/2006 13:34

Find it wierdly compelling. Can't abide all the positive vibes nonsense and all the contestants holding hands around the box-opener. But once you start watching, its hard to stop.

charliecat · 07/03/2006 13:35

My mum flings a temper tantrum if she misses it...WTF???!!!!!!

pootlepod · 07/03/2006 13:35

I like it, but then as a mathematician I would. I just look at the odds and people's interpretations of lucky numbers etc. Agree that Noel spins it out a bit and that gets tedious but you get that with all game shows.

RTKangaMummy · 07/03/2006 13:38

we watch it and all enjoy it Smile

vic891 · 08/03/2006 14:13

find it totally compelling. v amusing review by a.a. gill in last week's sunday times. will try to paste a link if i can find it...

vic891 · 08/03/2006 14:15

TV and Radio

The Sunday Times February 26, 2006

Television: AA Gill: Where to get your TV kicks

The only problem with a tropical paradise miles from the hugger-mugger hurly-burly of the great grind is that it is cut off from news of the hugger-mugger, hurly-burly of the great grind. All we hacks suffer from an addiction to news. I have been known to buy papers in languages I don’t speak, in the desperate hope I might absorb some information by osmosis. I always imagine I can go cold turkey, that the cornucopia of sybaritism will detract from the dearth of news, but it never does. I am weak-willed and creep off to catch a fix of satellite.
For the past week, my only hit has been the BBC’s rolling world-news service. Desperate though I was for almost anything current, this was almost worse than nothing. It has been quite some time since I seriously watched the BBC’s international output, and to say it’s eye-bulgingly, vein-poppingly, irredeemably stupidly God-awful is actually to be diplomatically reserved. BBC World News makes Fox sound like the sermon on the mount. It’s not just that it’s formatted as a pastiche of mid-Atlantic, visually portentous kitsch, with the strutting Tourette’s of repeated station idents; and that it produces news with all the energy, purpose and fluency of a constipated whippet; or even that the nuggets of content are squidged in between the garish furniture of braindead graphics and pointless graffiti. What was most depressingly sad was the upbeat, vanilla content of its reporting and investigation, as if it was all made by a committee from some timid, people-pleasing global development agency.

There was a Middle Eastern strand that reported on how happy Saudi Arabian women were with the great strides they had made in the workforce and being given driving licences, nearly. I am not making that up. The overall effect is of a news purveyor whose overriding concern is not to offend or spoil anyone’s breakfast. It competes with other rolling news channels by being as similar to the middle-of-the-road template as possible: all information is relative, all stories have a heart-warming angle. It also has ugly gobbets of advertising and commercial sponsorship.

At this point, I should remind you that the BBC is the biggest and richest broadcaster in the world, far larger than any American network. It also has the largest news-gathering organisation in the universe, with an un- rivalled heritage and wealth of experience; and on top of all that, it has a unique form of funding that allows it to be both secure and independent. At a time when international news is being strong-armed and censored by commercial, religious and political pressure, from Google in China to fundamentalists everywhere else, there is a desperate need and desire for authoritative, implacable, touchstone news and a forum for unguarded comment, and the BBC is one of the few broadcasters — perhaps the only one — with the tools, ability and respect to provide it. It should set the gold standard other broadcasters aspire to. Instead, it seems to be aspiring to catch up with the worst of the commercial newsmongers. BBC World News is nationally and professionally deeply shaming.

I returned to one of the dullest weeks on television we have had for ages. It will come as no surprise to you that critics watch most programmes on tapes or discs, so I settled down to view The Apprentice (Wednesday, BBC2), the new series of the franchise of Donald Trump’s American original, with Alan Sugar — a small, frenetic, stubbly haemorrhoid, who comes over as a plutocratic Abanazar — shouting at a covey of gelled and power-suited young Aladdins, who imagine they are taking part in a headhunting contest for a great job when in fact they are cheap victims for a reality-TV game show. Which doesn’t say much for their nous right from the start. In fact, they all appear to have been grabbed from the staff room of PC World.

As I sat through it quite happily, and just before the denouement of the first episode, the screen went blank. They had done it on purpose. We called the production company and asked what they had done with my happy ending, and why send a television critic a programme without one? They said they would tell us what happened over the phone. Can you imagine a theatre critic having to call the RSC to find out how the play turned out? Anyway, a nice chap in our office got the lowdown and repeated it all back to me — and, actually, listening to it was far more exciting than watching. So I suggest you don’t bother: just find someone on the bus who has, and get them to tell you what happened.

If you haven’t seen it already, stay in one afternoon to watch Deal or No Deal (Mon-Sat, C4). This is a game show that demands the mental skill and dexterity of a fridge magnet, that has contestants as plain and unexciting as a chiropodist’s waiting room, and a studio audience who would defy Tommy Cooper and Jessica Rabbit to warm them up. It also has zero viewer participation or empathy. And if all that wasn’t enough, it’s got Noel Edmonds as well. And the last thing it has is that it is utterly compelling, the most brilliant format for a gameshow since Michael Miles’s Take Your Pick.

It is based entirely on chance and choosing boxes in which there are printed amounts of money. Periodically, an unseen adjudicator offers the contestant some cash to stop playing. If that doesn’t sound utterly enticing, it’s because I am describing it badly. I would defy anyone to make it sound anything other than terminally dull. But the brilliance is that, though the process is identical in every episode, the plot is quite different. Most gameshows boil down to the binary excitement of winning or losing; this one has an internal tempo that builds and twists like a Hitchcock plot. It’s just that, instead of Anthony Perkins, we get Noel, with his mum’s hair on his head and her bikini wax on his chin. I’ve had to forbid myself from watching any more. It’s like putting heroin in the TV remote in the middle of the afternoon.

vic891 · 08/03/2006 14:16

oops - sorry, pasted too much - only meant to do the last two paras

vic891 · 08/03/2006 14:17

pmsl at hair comments

zippitippitoes · 08/03/2006 14:20

don't have much of a soft spot for Gill either

but that was quite a funny review thanks for that

I'm obviously missing something Grin

foxinsocks · 08/03/2006 14:21

have you seen the gossip on digital spy?

Apparently up until around now, the boxes were not random at all. They actually followed a sequence. There were around 5 (I think) sequences so after the first round of selection, you could actually tell what was in all the other boxes.

So far from it being random at all, if you knew the sequence (which no doubt the banker did) then you could tell where the big money was. Of course, none of the contestants had worked it out!

The production company has said that it will be random from (I think) around now onwards. What a con though!

foxinsocks · 08/03/2006 14:22

I have said 'apparently' but actually I watched a few shows last week and tried to see if they did follow the published sequences (as published on dig spy) and lo and behold they did!

bubblerock · 08/03/2006 14:27

DS2 aged 2 loves it!

RTKangaMummy · 08/03/2006 17:26

Please tell me the sequence cos I am too dim to know what it is

Grin
Piggiesmum · 08/03/2006 17:58

Well i love it but dh hates it lol

I don't think its really all about wining the £250,000. Thats only going to happen if someone is completely mad or ends up with the £100k and £250k at the end.

More to do with whether the contestant is lucky/smart enough to take the right offer at the right time as Noel would say. I can't be the only one shouting "deal" at the telly and then shaking my head and shouting "idiot" when they say "no deal" and go home with a few £. Serves them right for being greedy.

foxinsocks · 08/03/2006 21:25

well basically the boxes were not allocated randomly - the money amounts were allocated numerically in the following sequences. You just had to know where to start box 1 (so box 1 didn't always have £250,000 but you could start box 1 anywhere in that line and all the other amounts would follow in order).

A B C D E
250,000 250,000 250,000 250,000 250,000
500 75,000 5,000 1p 10
1,000 20,000 10 50 50
75,000 1 250 10p 5,000
50,000 5 3,000 50,000 50p
10 1,000 10p 10 100
3,000 500 1,000 100,000 500
100,000 5,000 1 20,000 1
250 100,000 100,000 500 75,000
5 10p 50 50p 5
15,000 50p 50p 35,000 250
5,000 10,000 10,000 1,000 50,000
10p 35,000 500 750 10,000
10,000 1p 5 3,000 35,000
35,000 10 20,000 15,000 10p
100 100 35,000 5 1p
1p 750 100 75,000 20,000
50 15,000 15,000 100 100,000
1 3,000 750 1 1,000
750 50 50,000 250 3,000
50p 250 1p 10,000 750
20,000 50,000 75,000 5,000 15,000

so let's say the first box the contestant chose was 50p and that was box 1. The next box she chooses is box 3 and that has £250k. The next box is box 4 and that has £500. You can see that this fits into sequence A (numerically). So starting at 50p (box 1), going down line A the next box (no.2) would be £20,000, then back to the top for no.3 (£250,000), no.4 (£500) no. 5(£1,000) etc. etc.

Apparently the banker didn't know this and the contestants didn't work it out!

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