Omg Alicia Duvall on bbc3

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She has called her baby papaya!!!
Wtaf

She came from wealthy ish parents but her money came from selling her stories and the media .

it's a little bit hammed up for the cameras.

Georgia lived with her grandparents until very recently - not her mother.

dysfunctional and very sad

I'm going to go slightly against the grain here and say I thought it was sweet how much openness and affection there was between Alicia and Georgia. Alicia needed help with her op - bad timing, yes, but there's clearly some psychological issues there. They seem to be quite a solid unit. I wish my 'naice' middle class mum had been so concerned about me when I was 16 because I was out doing all sorts and she never even noticed whether I spent the night at home or not.

But Tamoo, there's being 'concerned' and there's being 'controlling'.

I am just amazed that that poor girl didn't just throw her arms up in despair at her Mums neediness and unreasonable expectations and walk out the door in a teenage strop like the majority of 16yos might have done when faced with that.

I agree Tamoo,I posted on the other thread but can't be arsed to repeat.

The poor girl just looks like she wants to spend time with her friends and not made up and smiling for some awful magazine.

Oh and Papaya Coco Piri Duvall????

I do agree tamoo x

She somewhat redeems herself in the last 5 mins. First driving lesson probably went better than most.

Feckless to take your DD out of an A level mock. Selfish to expect care from a 16 year old that has looked after a baby solo for 11 hours and will do so overnight whilst you sleep.

Agree with Tamoo.

She has had a lot of hardship in her life it couldn't have been easy. Georgia is happy and healthy and she is a kind Mum.

i don't think she has had any hardship in her life.

Having a baby at 16 is hard and building a career where she can support herself and her family must have been a struggle.

She wasn't 16 though ghoulia!

Me and DD watched this with open mouths.
My 11 YO agrees that I am not such a bad mum after all.

I came on to say what tamoo said.

There may well be something wrong with me, but I found some parts of it quite touching. I'm not going to talk about the surgery stuff because she obviously has some issues they that I don't know the full extent of.

But the controlling stuff - it did show her softening and giving Georgia more freedom. Surely we all, as parents, have to learn to give our children freedom, even when we don't want to? I know a lot of people will have started at a younger (and more appropriate age). But still, she was getting there by the end..

I agree there were touching parts however they do not vindicate the mostly unconscionably selfish attitude and behaviour.

AD clearly has mental health issues regarding her body image and plastic surgery. Her 16 year old child had been looked after her 7 week old sister for 11 hours. Trying to force her own care instructions into Georgia's hands whilst she is feeding HER baby is just wrong. Where was her pneumatic friend then?

Georgia had it spot on 'she needs me more than I need her'. I hope that she goes away to uni so that she can have some independence and not be left holding the baby.

It does seem like they moved on by the end of the program - they needed to.

Yes, that bit with the care instructions didn't come over very well.

But she WAS recovering from an anaesthetic. I was a bit confused after my c-section and couldn't remember some conversations I had and that was only under a spinal and not a general as I assume AD must have had.

I'm prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt over that and say it's possible that she was in pain/woozy/not thinking straight/not herself.

Of course, that may not be the case, but I do think it's possible.

Its all totally edited. No-one really knows what they are like together.

They didn't edit the fact a mother of a 7 week old and 16 year old took both children to the States for the sole purpose of having non essential surgery. Why not take a friend or support for childcare.

I understand that this is a compulsion she may not be in control of,but this was a very difficult situation to put a child in.

It did seem like they got on well together.