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Anyone watching Panorama?

50 replies

ArielNonBio · 13/02/2012 20:46

Is anyone watching this about poverty in the USA? These children are very, very sad. How can a family which was comfortably off be living in a storm drain under Vegas, or five people to a hotel room, and not have any access to unemployment benefit? How can anyone be against broadening access to healthcare?

Grrrrrrr Angry

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CarnivorousPanda · 13/02/2012 20:49

Unbelievable...........and obscene in such a rich country.

And really depressing and sad.

Selks · 13/02/2012 20:51

Yeah....kind of blows apart the 'Amarican dream', doesn't it......the Neo-Cons have a lot to answer for....

ArielNonBio · 13/02/2012 20:51

Why is fairness seen as such a dirty word in the USA?

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Trickle · 13/02/2012 20:51

Remember this is the country we follow like lambs to the slaughter - Americans truly believe people like that arn't taking personal responsibility for their money situation and that they should just try harder - oh and that you shouldn't have children you can't support Hmm sound familiar?

Selks · 13/02/2012 20:53

Reccomended watching - the film 'Sicko' by Michael Moore.

CarnivorousPanda · 13/02/2012 20:53

This programme is really upsetting to watch

Selks · 13/02/2012 20:54

Indeed Trickle.

Meanwhile we watch the hatchet job being done on the NHS in this country...we need to protect the NHS with a passion.

ArielNonBio · 13/02/2012 20:56

I don't think you can generalise about what "Americans believe" and I certainly haven't intended starting an Americans-bashing thread. I actually think some of what they are doing to encourage innovation and small business could be imitated here to a degree.

But the poverty in the world's richest country is truly shocking. I can't imagine anything more miserable than living in a tent in Northern Michigan through the winter :(

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MidnightinMoscow · 13/02/2012 20:57

That poor man with the hernia.

Yes, Selks we need to be protect the NHS. I am a nurse, and I do not want to part of a system that turns people away knowing they will die without treatment.

It goes against everything I believe in.

BadDayAtTheOrifice · 13/02/2012 20:58

Shit its scary. That'll be us in 15 years time. People living in ghettos with no access to health care with none of the 'haves' giving a damn.

mousymouseafraidofdogs · 13/02/2012 20:58

so sad. I a shivering just looking at the tents.
so grateful for the social safety nets and health care we have here!

Yama · 13/02/2012 20:58

It's fucking heartbreaking. And sickening.

ArielNonBio · 13/02/2012 20:59

$20,000 to treat a tooth! Shock And they said he would get gangrene if it wasn't treated.Who the fuck has that kind of money lying around let alone someone who has no job?

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Selks · 13/02/2012 20:59

American people of course vary in their view points as much as anywhere. Sadly the far right has had a grip on America for such a long time that the inequalities and lack of social care infrastructure is so ingrained as to be very hard to shift. Obama tried hard to change healthcare but was met with insurmountable obstacles by the right.

CarnivorousPanda · 13/02/2012 21:00

And all this is happening under Obama -although admittedly he's lost control of the Senate.

I'm wondering what will happen under a Republican administration......

Selks · 13/02/2012 21:01

"social safety nets and health care we have here".....not if Cameron has his way

sailorsgal · 13/02/2012 21:01

I was listening to radio two today regarding Greece and there are children there fainting at school as they are hungry. Its absolutely disgusting that this is happening in 2012.

mousymouseafraidofdogs · 13/02/2012 21:01

the 20,000 were for the open hernia

ArielNonBio · 13/02/2012 21:03

Oh right.

Mustn't MN and try and watch Panorama at the same time!

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adamschic · 13/02/2012 21:05

It's dog eat dog out there. You work and get to keep your money via lower taxes and state intervention. You don't work, you are in trouble. You have money, you have choices, best health care etc. Tis the way the cons want it here.

adamschic · 13/02/2012 21:07

meant to say 'lower' state intervention.

MaMattoo · 13/02/2012 21:09

The republicans were in a CNN debate which this program mentioned. It made me boil over. The NHS is heading in the same direction - slowly, but surely. Privatisation, cut backs, short staffed, procedural work overtaking the executive work.
It is a sad day when a child watches their mother eat a rat, out of a lack of choice. Sad. Sad.

CarnivorousPanda · 13/02/2012 21:11

Its the doctrine of Samuel Smiles - Self Help.

But you lose your job, you lose your home and health insurance.

And millions of people are losing their homes.

KalSkirata · 13/02/2012 21:14

thats our future there

ArielNonBio · 13/02/2012 21:14

That's the child which made me start this thread MaMattoo. That poor little scrap called Lesley who was so sad and serious.

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