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Poor Kids

198 replies

expatinscotland · 07/06/2011 22:45

Anyone watching?

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Colleger · 08/06/2011 00:02

When I was growing up in the 1980's in similar accommodation our gas/elec was around £300 per month. The only heater was in the living room and we didn't have any costly electrical items such as a washing machine. We always queried the bill, but like the damp we were always fobbed off!

lisad123 · 08/06/2011 00:03

and the very thing that makes me angry is unless you are in credit you cannot come off the meter [angry its round and round

slartybartfast · 08/06/2011 00:06

here

MollieO · 08/06/2011 00:06

I thought there was a move to ensure key meters costs were better regulated.

As for Saturday jobs I guess today's rich kids are different from the ones I was at school with. Very few bothered to get jobs then.

lisad123 · 08/06/2011 00:07

the thing is no amount of money will make this better because the adults arent educated in how to manage money and housing and the access to the knowledge most of us take for granted.
They are partly to blame themselves but as communities we let these young children down, who grow into these adults.
Where I used to work we had a family tree type thing, and i could tie about 85% of the families I was working with to this tree, which was done 20 years before :(

lisad123 · 08/06/2011 00:08

rich kids dont need job, middle class and well educated lower classes want jobs, poor kids are too depressed and have such low self esteem they cant see the point :(

tiredmummyneedswineandsleep · 08/06/2011 00:10

so sad, I have struggled financially in past but ds never had to go without thankfully. The main thing that has lifted us out of poverty is because DS has a disability so we now get higher tax credits and dla, before that life was so much harder. Really felt for the children.
I would like to donate some of his no longer played wih toys and his bike when outgrown to such children. heartbreaking and they were so lovely the children.
would love to buy sam a new uniform. would be nice if a company like butlins could donate a holiday plus travel expenses to them.
was lovely to see paige's family rehoused and i hope courtney's does too. shocking that in this day and age property can be so mouldy.
I really hope Sam's sister stays in education and does well. She has a good heart and seemed a bright girl.

Deux · 08/06/2011 00:16

I'm really not prone to crying at TV programmes but dear God this was quite sad and shocking. At the end where the little girl said she didn't want to grow up. She thought her future was mapped out for her already?

What brilliant articulate children. I also wondered why Sam's school couldn't do something to help him with his uniform. So sad when he said that he would never have a wife as she'd leave him. I was left wondering if this is going to set his expectations for adult relationships.

All this when I'd just switched off my £230 iron. How many meals would that provide.

I feel quite shaken up by this programme.

lisad123 · 08/06/2011 00:16

We used to get local companies donating presents at xmas for our families and was so nice giving them to famlies knowing that come xmas morning something would be under the tree. It was one of the nicest parts of what was a very depressing job.
I want to buy Sam his uniform for the rest of his school life tbh. I hated going to school in terrible uniforms, and dh said tonight he was picked on for wearing trousers too short.
There is a scheme im sure about spondering a child in the UK

Deux · 08/06/2011 00:18

i woudl be very keen to sponsor a child in this country.

JoInScotland · 08/06/2011 00:46

This is all so heartbreaking. My mum brought up 7 of us on very little money.... we ate a lot of potatoes, beans and rice. We were picked on at school because of the clothes we wore, the home haircuts, etc. Is there a scheme to sponsor a child? Is donating to Barnardos the only thing we can do?

expatinscotland · 08/06/2011 01:10

I'm not sure how I felt about this programme.

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Colleger · 08/06/2011 08:58

Well all I can say is that those earning a good salary should not be allowed to keep their council house so that those less fortunate can have a better standard of living!

bronze · 08/06/2011 09:55

Is that 1k after housing (for 1adult 2 kids) costs figure really right?

Seems a lot to me especially when it puts us into that bracket (until recently) and I thought we were pretty lucky

Fimbo · 08/06/2011 10:03

It was shocking and made me cry. I too would love to sponsor a child in this country. Christ when I think of all the sh$t that my dc have. I have a playroom bursting at the seems with a telly and computer that nobody uses. Actually feel quite ashamed.

SexyDomesticatedDab · 08/06/2011 10:11

Fimbo same here Blush but will be finding a way to donate directly if I can.

Per the thread on AIBU - find it really bad that those with the least money get the least benefit. If you have internet and a bit savvy you can get good deals on gas & elect - those that can't have direct debits etc just pay way over the odds - that is just so wrong.

TimeWasting · 08/06/2011 10:35

SexyDom, that's the thing. Technically, we're pretty skint at the moment, but I'm not from a poor family. I'm educated, I'm optimistic, I know my rights, I know the options, I've got internet access, and I'm quite happy to use free services with no sense of stigma. (SureStart centres seem to be full of yummy mummies round here)

pinkhousesarebest · 08/06/2011 11:00

I am still in a state this morning. The bit where the little girl was talking about her birthday, and the older sister told her not to waste her time thinking about it as it would come to nothing. The world weariness in that face. The resignation and hopelessness in an eight year old. It is like the Middle Ages.

pot39 · 08/06/2011 11:30

I too am still concerned.
I'm looking for work and feel depressed too, but I have riches compared to the families.
I can't even blame the Tories!
However, the Tories can do something about it, go after all that tax that Vodafone, Tory Lord Non-doms etc avoid. Stop cutting grants to charities who are working with the poor.
It would be good to see the same head of steam about this as has been about children's sexy clothes...........

fuzzpigFriday · 08/06/2011 11:48

According to those statistics we are in poverty now, but we have very few outgoings and we manage, but we've been quite close to the breadline a few times. I can't imagine what it'd be like living like that all the time.

Going to watch this later. I've actually told DH not to watch as it is very likely to upset him - he grew up like that. Although in his case mum actually was largely to blame - spending all the money on designer clothes and posh food for herself, leaving the DCs starving and bullied for their clothes. DH was called Stig of the Dump at school.

hiddenhome · 08/06/2011 11:56

Bloody hell, I never cry at stuff that's on the telly, but this programmed has left me shaken and upset. I can't stop thinking about that poor little boy in his sister's blouse and torn trousers. I would love to sponser him and make sure he has proper uniform, shoes, haircuts and birthday/christmas presents. I didn't have much growing up and we often went without, but it wasn't as bad as that. The bloody mother should be ashamed of herself. I bet she doesn't pay a penny in child support Angry Fancy walking out on them all. Even if she was being abused she could easily have kept in touch with her children and be trying to provide for them.

lovecorrie · 08/06/2011 12:19

Watched it on iplayer this morning and cried and cried. This should be compulsory viewing for everyone in this country.

PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling · 08/06/2011 12:24

I was watching it thinking if they had made it black and white it would have looked just like a historical documentary from the 60s, like Cathy Come Home era. Nothing's changed. The families have big TVs, but the housing quality is just as bad as the slums were, the diet's just as bad, their health isn't much better, and I bet their teeth are just as bad.
But more than anything it was the kids' faces, they just had this look about them that you shouldn't see these days. Sad

Hullygully · 08/06/2011 12:27

Sponsor a child in this country is a brilliant idea. Now, who's going to organise it?

thefirstMrsDeVere · 08/06/2011 12:34

I was on metres when I was in council. They bought in key metres. Then all the local shops stopped filling them.

I had to walk miles (in inner london) to fill them up. I could never afford to put more than a fiver at a time on them so couldnt stock up.

It was a really anxious time. The DCs were very small and I was on my own. I had to bundle them up in this manky old tandem buggy and push them for a very long way whatever the weather. Sometimes we got there and the paypoint would be shut. I would then have to find another one.

I know its not the same as going down the mines or living in Africa but at the time it was all so grindingly hard and scary.

I would buy the kids clothes from jumble sales (no cheap supermarket stuff then) but you had to buy what there was. You couldnt just go and get a coat or shoes. Shoes were the worst. They were dearer then than now and there were no cheap outlets.

I always try and remember what it was like. If I forget I might become complacent.

The reasons for poverty and many and complex.

I may be wrong - someone can correct me if I misuse this term - but does anyone think there is a fair bit of cognitive disonence about when it comes to poverty?

I mean - well they smoke, they get their hair done, its down to the bad managment of the parents etc?

There are some crappy parents who would piss away any amount of money they were given but I dont feel IME that is the case in the majority.

I work with families living in extreme poverty. In one room, no money, no education. Its horrible.

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