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Panorama - Failings in care system

112 replies

WillyBumBalls · 31/05/2011 21:05

Just wondered if anyone else is watching this.

I used to work in a care setting where the staff were not great and given all the publicity thought I'd watch this.

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ohanotherone · 31/05/2011 21:40

This is awful....I am horrified. Why haven't the police prosecuted the managment/carers and NHS/SSD closed the palce down?????

ohanotherone · 31/05/2011 21:42

Why didn't they stop filming this and call the police???

SixtyFootDoll · 31/05/2011 21:44

This is so awful, I am shocked.

ohanotherone · 31/05/2011 21:45

I have had to turn over.

NormanTebbit · 31/05/2011 21:46

This is torture

kelly2525 · 31/05/2011 21:50

Jesus, I cant believe what Im seeing, my heart is breaking for those poor residents, what the hell must be going through their minds?

How can scum like that be allowed to breathe the same air as the rest of us?

They need locking up, theyre animals

maddiemostmerry · 31/05/2011 21:50

Have read that thirteen staff have been suspended and that there is a police investigation ongoing.

WillyBumBalls · 31/05/2011 21:50

I really am failing to understand how so many people can stand back and watch this attrocity happen!

Simone looks so word down by it all, if she did'nt have mental issues she would have killed those bastards, she really is trying but can't get a chance.

I too think they should have stopped and got the police in straight away no need to stand back and let it continue.

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msrisotto · 31/05/2011 21:50

Can you imagine if some of the parents got to meet those staff members? They'd deserve what they got.

catsareevil · 31/05/2011 21:52

This is awful. I feel ill watching this.

These places cost about £2-3000/week. (not that it would be exusable if they were cheaper, but really it should be a gold standard level of care for that price).

ohanotherone · 31/05/2011 21:57

This is nothing to do with "staff not earning enough money". It's abuse, lack of training, employing awful staff and poor regulation as CQC were told of the abuse.

MrsVidic · 31/05/2011 21:58

I can not believe they filmed for 5 weeks-1 day would have been enough to blow the whistle.

Riveninside · 31/05/2011 22:00

I feel sick watching this

Ormirian · 31/05/2011 22:03

Ds1 is just sobbing Sad

What can I say? it hardly ever happens ? It's a one-off? Trouble is I don't suppose it is.

WillyBumBalls · 31/05/2011 22:06

Cats - I know what you mean but whether it costs 3p or 3k it should not be happening to anyone in residential care or at home.

There needs to be a severe overhaul of the care inspection system if this is to stop. There are so many places it would be impossible to eradicate it completely as there will always be one scumbag who slips the net but 13?! Angry

Having worked in care homes things like inspections need to change as the place I was in managed to get the dtes for 'surprise' visits and the extra staff, cleaning, care routines and activites on the day easily masked the problems that were really going on day in day out!

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highriggs · 31/05/2011 22:10

So stunned that people could and would actively torture other people whatever their needs are just because they have the power to.
Shocked, disgusted and shaking with the horror of it

bleedingstill · 31/05/2011 22:12

I hope those cruel morons spend a very long time in jail

AprilRose · 31/05/2011 22:13

Oh, ffs, I'm in pieces here... That was posibly the most upsetting thing I've ever seen.

That said; I can see why the few good members of staff (if there were any...) didn't say anything. If a complaint had gone all the way to the top without answer then I can understand there would be a reticence to act. On top of that there would be the fear of having to leave their job and not necesssarily have another to go to. They were probably afraid and a little relieved not to have the attention and abuse turned on them.

I'm not trying to defend the silence of anyone who knew about this abuse, but just trying to offer a suggestion as to why the abuse was allowed to continue.

Alo, those of you saying the police should have been called in sooner, I don't know enough about these things, but is it possible they needed proof, such as the video footage Joe managed to get? I'm not an expert on abuse or adults with learning difficulties by a long shot, but I've had a basic safeguarding course as part of a summer job wrking with children, and remember how difficult anything surrounding disclosure of abuse or similar things was. You can't say anything that might be perceived as a leading statement if a vulnerable person says something to you. Likewise, you are told to escalate any concerns to your line manager or another person higher than yourself, but if they're the ones causing the concerns then where do you go?

I feel absolutely awful for the patients, and also for their families, and for the staff members who were innocent of the abuse, even if they weren't strong/brave enough to say anything.

Sorry, that was a bit of an essay with very little factual basis, but I feel really affected by that documentary and am appalled that it has been allowed to happen.

DillyDaydreaming · 31/05/2011 22:14

I actually could not continue watching as it was so horrific. All I kept thinking was "why, why, why did they not stop the filming and call in the police"? I know in their continued filming they identified more staff but even so - one assault is enough. Poor Simone - just wanted to deck the bastards carrying out the abuse.

DillyDaydreaming · 31/05/2011 22:17

You are correct AprilRose, it's shocking but they have to show a pattern, a repeated cycle of abuse. So horrific...

JaceyBee · 31/05/2011 22:18

I am speechless at this. Simone's poor mother, when she called out for her mum in the shower...I just can't imagine how she must be feeling now. And Simon, that poor guy he seemed so sweet, I really hope his brother goes all Paddy Considine in Dead Mans Shoes on their asses!

These people entrust their children into these 'care' homes in good faith, this is like something from fucking Bethlem in the 1500s. I hope these people get prosecuted. Why would people like this apply for care worker jobs in the first place?

mckenzie · 31/05/2011 22:20

I too had to stop watching and my heart is breaking for the guys in the film but also for anybody watching who has a loved one in a care home anywhere. It is just sickening. I don't think i have ever been so moved and upset but also so helpless after seeing a TV programme.

mrscynical · 31/05/2011 22:20

Who the hell employed Wayne in the first place? Where has common sense gone?

If that bloke came to me for a job in a care home (or anywhere else come to that) I can tell you from looking at him that I would never, ever employ him. He has thug (literally) written all over him whether he's in a care home, walking down the high street, in the local pub or down at the police station being arrested for DV!

AND he got promoted at some stage to SENIOR care worker! Absolutely beggars belief.

WTF are the Quality Care Commission doing? This has made me really fuming.

ScarlettIsWalking · 31/05/2011 22:24

I too feel sick after watching this. It was like some kind of nightmare. The torturers then those who turned away like the senior staff. I said to dh when I watch this I see how Nazi Germany evolved; the banality of evil.

I really don't understand why they are not in jail. I hope they rot somewhere.

NormanTebbit · 31/05/2011 22:26

Absolutely Mrs

We are failing these people. WTF is The Care Commission doing?

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