Janice and Chandler

[schroeder]

I love them together and tonight was the best episode.

I wobble between a stupid grin and tears when Chandler and Phoebe sing Lionel Ritchie at the end

A fantastic episode!!

But as usual the writers were able to balance the sadness with the ridiculous.

Lawks I will miss it when it goes.

Aww I love friends! Seen all the episodes thousands of times but still laugh :)

'my endless loooveee/luuuuve!' :)

Best show ever. What other show could you watch hundreds of times and still laugh?

The thing is, in this episode they split up so she can return to her husband, with whom she has a child, even though they're in love. But later when Rachel has Emma we find out that she got divorced and that the husband remarried and hardly saw their child anymore. Why didn't she go back to Chandler then?

Was the yemen episode somewhere between that?

And they probably should have done an episode with her and Joey (even if it was a dream sequence or something) so she could get the hat trick.

The bestest show.... my fave episode Season 5 the one where they all find out...

darleneoconnor after Joey and Janices day of fun the hat trick was on a no hoper :)

Doesn't Chandler go to Yemen after that? I know that when Ross sleeps with her ("HE HOOKED UP!") Janice comes in and says "I know what you're all thinking...but Chandler's in Yemen!".

I preferred the next episode to that one (the football at Thanksgiving one).

Although, Ross is typically unfunny with his 'yo Heidi, which one of my boys do you like' nonsense.

My favorite one is when they are trying to get the sofa up the stairs and Ross is manically shouting "pivot, PIVOTTT!"

Chandler doesn't look very well in these episodes. I think that was when MP had his painkiller addiction.

I think Janice and Joey could have got drunk etc etc.

I liked Chandler with Kathy, Joey's ex. But they seemed to break them up very quickly.

Same with Joey and Kate, the actress.

The writers seemed to ant to keep all the others single just having M&C as a couple and the on-off Ross and Rachel thing.

Has anyone ever worked out how many boyfriends/girlfriends they all had during the series?

Ross started as an almost virgin but ended up a bit of a womaniser.

I absolutely do not lie in bed at night and count up how many bf/gf they all had as an aid to sleep. Except I do.

Rumour has it (I'm such a Friends geek), that no guest could ever break into the group well enough for them to manage working together in any believable way. Helen Baxendale quite famously talks about how hard it was to feel on the periphery of it all. Understandable but meant that they couldn't bring in 'new' characters very easily.

Ross didn't become a womaniser, he became a creepy, abusive moron.

I do love a bit of Friends related chat :o

Here's a question - which Friend do you think YOU are most like?

For me it's Ross - because I'm geeky :)

Emily. English, initially charmed by Ross but finally disgusted by what a plonker he is.

Yes I wasn't pleased when Helen Baxendale was pushed out when she got pregnant IRL.

I wonder how Paul Rudd found it?

You are right about Ross, he was creepy.

The boyfs/girlfs/snogs/dates I can think of are:

Rachel: Ross, Paolo, Tag, Barry, Joshua, Russ, Elizabeth's Dad/Bruce Willis, the guy who steals from her, Jean Claude van Damme
Monica: Chandler, Richard, Paul, fun Bobby, Ethan, the nurse at Phoebe's birth, Winona Ryder, the date where she cals Ross, Pete, Chip Mattews, Richard's son, the double date with Joey
Phoebe: Mike, David, Charlie Sheen, the ice dancer, the guy upstairs, the fireman and the other one in the same episode, Sean Penn/Ursula's ex, her massage client, the very old guy who lost his phone, the primary teacher, Alec Baldwin, Sergi,
Chandler:Monica, Janice, Aurora, Nina, Kathy, Joey's sister, Julia Roberts
Joey: Kathy, Kate, Casey, Rachel, Charlie, the bridesmaid, the neighbour him and Ross fought over, Ursula, the date where he wont share food, Rachel's Mum, Susan Sarandon, Kate's understudy, Janice's friend, the double date with Monica
Ross: Carol, Rachel, Julie, Emily, Janice, Charlie, Mona, Phoebe, Dirty Girl, Elizabeth, the neighbour him and Joey fought over, the date with the shiney teeth, the girl from Poughkipsie and another in the same episode, the date with the girl with the job that wasn't her major, Chandler's Mum, Rachel's sister/Reece Witherspoon

Elle Macpherson - was she involved with Joey?

Don't get the creepy Ross thing at all, why?

When did she develop the annoying laugh? I didn't hear it last night. I haven't previously seen any episodes when Chandler and she were an item which is amazing seeing as I watch it every night. Agree - it's still funny. Mike was the only one who 'infiltrated' the six really.

yes for got about Elle, also Chandler and Rachel's boss.

Why is Ross creepy? I warn I do run on about this... I'll try to keep it brief.

He is in love with the same woman for 9yrs before he does anything about it. He can at first be seen as just infatuated, it's even quite sweet. But he's at times angry, jealous, controlling, manipulative etc. All behind a veneer of vulnerability and big gestures. Of course he then gets into a relationship with this woman. He is pretty full on pretty quickly and starts to change. Rude about her job, clingy, controlling, starts becoming paranoid and jealous, turns up at her place of work and makes scenes, deliberately tags along on a work trip and embarrasses her all because of the perceived threat of 'Mark'. The Mark thing escalates, she finally snaps and they agree to a break. They quickly decide that this is the wrong thing and are making pains to sort things out (over the phone) but of course Mark is there, Ross assumes the worst and sleeps with the Xerox girl. From this point onwards, he changes into something I really don't like.

He runs around trying to conceal the fact he slept with another woman. When found out he says he only did it because he thought Rachel was doing the same (it's her fault he had sex with another woman), he is accusatory, refuses to accept responsibility. He goes on in subsequent episodes to tell Carol that the relationship between him and Rachel broke down because she was sleeping with Mark (all her fault again and blatant lies), he continues to refuse to accept responsibility and when Rachel finally tries to move on and explains how important it is to her that he admits what he did (18 PAGES FRONT AND BACK!!!), he falls asleep, lies, sleeps with her again anyway, then throws it all back in her face.

It continues right to the end. He dates Mona, lies to her, lets her down, changes the locks to keep her out, gives mixed messages, humiliates her etc. He develops a hilarious rage issue where he screams in the face of the woman he's telling the lake Tipidabo story to, screams at another woman about her lighting (the one with his white teeth), invites a woman who is vulnerable to his apartment and humiliates her, calls her his girlfriend, mocks her and then sends her away. All the time continuing his controlling attitude towards Rachel by not giving her phone messages, keeping stuff from her, interfering with her work plans yet again by bribing her boss.

He's given these sweet big gestures and shown as needy and vulnerable but really he's controlling and awful. They got it really wrong towards the end.

Blimey, SoH, you are absolutely right! I'd never seen him in that light before. Imagine someone posting about him in Relationships!

Ross is weird - what ShowofHands said. I never got the appeal. Also it freaked me out that his body was clearly very worked out but he was supposed to be this nerd.

I love Janice - Janice had the most fantastic hair and was easily as stunning as the others.

The Elle McPherson episodes make me what to poke my own eyes out.

want - duh.

Showofhands- you are right about Ross, when it's all put down like that he is vv creepy

Also at the end, why is it her that gives up her great job opportunity to be with him. She said herself she had gone as far as she could with it. In the end she was unemployed and defined by being someone's girlfriend. Was it not her running away from this kind of like that begun the whole series?
She might as well have married Barry.

Another thing that bugs me about friends is that the men were allowed to pile on the pounds but the women had to stay stick thin. In some episodes Monica lokks like she could snap in half.

Lisa Kudrow always looked pretty normal but I'd imagine the pressure of having had a baby halfway through was enormous.

I prefer early friends because they all look normal, crap hair, odd clothes etc. It does become ridiculous towards the end (yet still enjoyable) and the women are so painfully thin it's disappointing. MP has obvious issues with the painkiller addiction, his weight fluctuating dramatically. It was an enormous thing at the time, Friends. Terrible pressure.

Yes, Rachel doesn't get a happily ever after. She gives up and comes full circle.

Lisa K is about 100 times a better actress than the others. I hated all the stuff about weight and the terrible fact that Monica had been fat. Then remember when Brad Pitt did his guest appearance- was he in a fat suit? it was all meant to be so funny and left me cold.