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Last episode of the last series' of The Tudors!

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FlaminGreatGallah · 02/04/2011 22:01

Oh no Sad

Whoever said on the previous thread that little Edward is as Irish as can be (to be sure) was quite right. I annoy comment on that to DH all the time. He is beautiful though.

Now does the victory of the English against the French live on in your hearts and minds in the same way that Agincourt does?

No it does not; sorry Henry!

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godzuki · 02/04/2011 22:06

The last one ever? No! It cannot be!

frecklyspeckly · 02/04/2011 22:12

He (jrm)
is sooo Irish in this one, he can't be arsed to even attempt an english accent!

expatinscotland · 02/04/2011 22:12

Gah, he's such a bad actor!

KurriKurri · 02/04/2011 22:25

I didn't watch many of these but was wondering why it finished with Henry VIII's death. What about the following Tudors?

Bue · 02/04/2011 22:25

This is a new Prince Edward!

expatinscotland · 02/04/2011 22:27

The females don't count. LOL.

frecklyspeckly · 02/04/2011 22:39

superman's popped off now, its rather sad

KurriKurri · 02/04/2011 22:40

Ah - I thought as much expat Grin

darleneconnor · 02/04/2011 22:45

I really hope they do another series in a few years.

darleneconnor · 02/04/2011 22:45

did he really call her 'Kate'?

expatinscotland · 02/04/2011 22:46

Mary never liked her father. She had very good reason not to. He was such an arse to her for most of her life.

Bue · 02/04/2011 22:57

Over :(

LoveLeonardCohen · 02/04/2011 22:58

Oh did you see the advert for the new show 'The Crimson and the white petal'? ...looks good

LoveLeonardCohen · 02/04/2011 22:59

Will have to watch last Tudors online, distracted by Mumsnet! Wasn't Henry (as played by Jonathon R M), very hunky (now there's a word I haven't used for years) when he was younger?

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FlaminGreatGallah · 02/04/2011 23:06

Oh the end was very sad. All his triumphs and disasters.

The people he betrayed and the ones who betrayed him.

JRM is quite good-looking but I wouldn't call him "hunky" and he is supposed to be a right little prick in RL.

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Bue · 02/04/2011 23:10

The new series from the makers of The Tudors is... The Borgias. Probably the same 'sex with historical inaccuracies' premise but it has Jeremy Irons in it. Not sure if/when we're getting it here, though. It's starting in North America very soon.

expatinscotland · 02/04/2011 23:22

Sad? He become a horrible tyrant who had put to terrible deaths many good, innocent people. He was abominable.

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FlaminGreatGallah · 02/04/2011 23:26

DH really wants to see that. So do I.

Poor Mary though. Can you imagine?

"I wanted to divorce my wife on spurious grounds and destroy her entire belief system in the process in order to get with a much younger woman. Was I being unreasonable to declare my only child, my heir, the Princess, illegitimate and also to make her serve as my new DD's maid? Might this possibly have repercussions for the future do you think?"

LOL at "sex with historical inaccuracies" I suppose they can't go on because of the most basic one with Henry's sister(s) which means that either Mary Queen of Scots OR Lady Jane Grey could exist but not both.

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FlaminGreatGallah · 02/04/2011 23:29

But he was human and infallible expat and given his upbringing...

Yes he was a terrible twat especially to women.

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expatinscotland · 02/04/2011 23:59

He was an adult with a sterling education who didn't like to be challenged. At all. Ever. By anyone.

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FlaminGreatGallah · 03/04/2011 00:03

Killed them all didn't he, except Brandon who for all his good points was probably guilty of keeping his head down a little bit too much.

And just because, Cardinal Wolsey's last scene which was absolutely wonderful.

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HaggisNeepsnTatties · 03/04/2011 00:11

"Poor Mary?" ....she became known as "Bloody Mary" and some may say, more tyrannical than her father.....

darleneconnor · 03/04/2011 00:42

but didn't Elizabeth execute just as many as Mary? (but just over a longer time)

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FlaminGreatGallah · 03/04/2011 00:51

I think they were about even but they both had such awful childhoods that I can understand why they were both so bitter and fanatical. And sadly in those days they couldn't just hand out flowers to all and sundry and gain respect, they had to follow the accepted political principles of the day and in some ways be seen to be even more ruthless. These things can't be changed overnight or by one person and most certainly not by a female in a precarious position.

Even a legitimate Prince / King had to watch his step every inch of the way so imagine how much cleverer they had to be as young women in order to just stay alive let alone come to power and keep it.

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expatinscotland · 03/04/2011 16:20

Childhood, as a state, was not seen the same way it is now. It was more a of mini-adulthood, training-for-adulthood and less protracted than now.

Thomas More, for example, left formal education at the age of 12 after obtaining a very coveted position as a page in the house of the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Although the education of the pages continued, they were expected to do A LOT of real work every day.

Even before this, his school day, and those of his fellow pupils, was incredibly long, something that would be found completely inappropriate for children that age these days.

There just wasn't the luxury of dwelling on a lot of things or the past the way we have now for many.

But it could and did impact, of course. For example, James VI/I grew up experiencing a number of attempts on his life, his mother (whom he didn't really know) for the most part of his early life imprisoned, his father murdered and witnessing some rather bloody struggles for control over him in his minority, was seriously paranoid and quick to believe anything that went wrong was the result of sorcery, demons, devils and the like. Hence, more than a few burned at the stake before he even came to the English throne.

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