Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Telly addicts

What, no Tudors thread?!

8 replies

expatinscotland · 26/02/2011 23:17

I want a king in my life to shower me with gifts.

OP posts:
EllieG · 26/02/2011 23:43

But not to chop any bits off you.

Jacquix · 01/03/2011 14:56

Where has the Tudors gone? Surely the next episode is meant to be on this Saturday night, but it's not showing up in my TV listings.

expatinscotland · 01/03/2011 17:06

Well, Joley Richardson most certainly isn't going to get her tits out, so there'll be no racy sex scenes.

Who's next to be executed?

OP posts:
agedknees · 01/03/2011 18:33

Katherine Parr survived her marriage to Henry, married Thomas Seymour and then died in childbirth (I think).

Love the Tudors.

expatinscotland · 01/03/2011 19:01

Yes, but this is a television show whose own writer stated: 'Showtime commissioned me to write an entertainment, not history,' so if Joeley's not getting her tits out, we can expect someone's head to roll in the next one! :o

OP posts:
expatinscotland · 01/03/2011 19:04

She actually died after the child, a girl, was born, of what appears to be a postpartum infection, as she lingered for a time and even appeared to improve somewhat, then become feverish again.

She had time to remonstrate with her husband for his flirtation with the Princess Elizabeth, who never again let her honour be called into such question. Evidence is that she did not hold Elizabeth, who was still a youngish teenager, responsible but rightly called her husband up on it.

Sadly, there is no record of the girl child ever having reached adulthood. It's likely she followed her mother to an early grave in childhood.

OP posts:
expatinscotland · 02/03/2011 02:16

Remember, Katherine Howard was not even 20 when she was executed, and ignorant and rather stupid, and had no mother to get her off or see her otherwise married, and that Dereham loved her, and wanted to marry her.

Elizabeth's own mother had had her head cut off by her father. She likely equated marriage with death, and childbirth with such.

Women were nothing but chattel to men, even queens.

Parliament combined wanted a male in power, so Elizabeth never named her sucessor, only made a sign and ascented when she was past the power of speech that it was to be James, the last man standing, a Protestant king already married to a Protestant princess and the father of, at the time, two living sons.

Until very recently and in many ways now a woman is subject to a male and so when we watch this show it is entertainment but to any woman then it was real life.

When Robert Dudley himself died he praised his wife, Lettice Knowles, for being obedient.

If you have the chance read Ackkroyd's bio of Sir Thomas More and gain insight into his ideas of feminine equality and his pursuit of this as much as he could within the time in which he lived and its constructs. He did the best he could for a 16th century man.

OP posts:
ThatllDoPig · 02/03/2011 02:24

Interesting expat thanks!
You seem to know your stuff. . .Do you think Katherine Howard was really unfaithful after marriage to the king?
What about Anne ? There is a theory that the evidence was coerced under torture.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread