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Panarama about Stalking

8 replies

ValiumSilverTongue · 24/01/2011 20:34

anybody watching this?

There are some insane men out there.

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lottiejenkins · 24/01/2011 20:41

I am watching this. I had an ex ringing me up when drunk this time last year and he kept texting me. Nothing as bad as this poor woman but enough to make me block his number from ringing me and contacting the police. I was told if i needed it i could take out a harrassment warning order but thankfully he has left me alone since.

sailorsgal · 24/01/2011 20:43

I read a story recently regarding a woman stalking a guy. It ruined his relationship with his girlfriend.

wubblybubbly · 24/01/2011 20:45

It's a disgrace that these lunatics aren't dealt with by the law.

NetworkGuy · 24/01/2011 23:41

Thanks sailorsgal, for a bit of balance...

(have not seen the programme)

ValiumSilverTongue · 25/01/2011 13:53

ofgs networkguy, it's not something you can just "apply balance" to.

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walkinZombie · 25/01/2011 16:44

I was about to make this thread, then I saw this onelol

It was harrowing, no where near enough is done. However I found it wierd that even breaking in a few times he didnt really 'do anything' if you get me, just threats. Most women are murdered in this time frame

hugglymugly · 25/01/2011 20:11

I've just watched this. I was a bit disappointed with the paucity of evidence, solely because I'm not sure that anyone who doesn't have some awareness of stalking would really have understood how corrosive that kind of behaviour can be. But I think the reason for this is the decision of the police not to include the evidence Eve collected early on, so presumably that's all that Panorama could show in order to not compromise the upcoming court case.

There have been many threads here about the threatening behaviour after a woman has decided to leave a relationship; and threads where women have great difficulty in breaking free from a controlling and abusive relationship. There has been and is continuing to be great support, advice, and understanding of not just how difficult it can be to break away but also of the fear for the consequences.

I am shocked by the little understanding that still seems to exist in some police forces as to the complexity of domestic abuse. The case cited on the programme was that of Katie Boardman who was murdered by her ex-husband. Comment was made by the IPCC that Katie was not always forthcoming with information to the police. But even if Katie was herself somewhat confusing in what she said, it's the job of investigating officers to disentangle what they've been told - that surely should be a basic investigative technique.

In Eve's case, she had recorded evidence of threats made to her by phone, and video evidence of her ex being at her house despite the requirement for him to stay away. Yet that apparently wasn't sufficient for the police to realise the level of threat.

It's even more disturbing that a straight-forward checklist had been available but wasn't used, apparently on the basis that there hadn't been training in the use of that checklist. The point of a checklist is that it doesn't need training - what it does need is for ordinary police officers to fill in the form and then pass that on to trained domestic violence officers. But it needs the checklist to be completed in the first place.

I'm somewhat confused, NetworkGuy, why you think a bit of balance is needed. Certainly there are cases where the woman is the perpetrator; indeed, the SWMBO phenomenon is well known and should no more be ignored than cases of HWMBO. A better awareness of domestic violence, precipitated by a better awareness of domestic violence of the male-on-female variance, should result in what you seem to be looking for.

The two cases referred to in this thread are the Katie Boardman murder: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8419167.stm

And the Maria Marchese case: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1540019/Stalker-who-cried-rape-is-jailed-for-nine-years.html

walkinZombie · 25/01/2011 23:47

Huggly- I don't think you need to have much experience of being stalked to see that was harrowing, it didn't make any difference to me , stalking works on primal fears its just generally terrifying, but its true police didnt seem too enthused even on there.

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