Birtains Streets of Booze and Feotal Alcohol Syndrome!

[staceym11]

Has anyone else been watching this programme? i cant believe nobody ever told me about FAS when i was pregnant. when i was first pg with dd i wasnt aware that i was as she wasnt planned and i binge drank more than anyone i knew (being drunk every day), when i found out i was pregnant i cut down drinking (maybe a glass of wine a week) but never knew it could do so much harm.

Was anyone told about FAS when pregnant????

right will come back and read comments later have to go get the baby out of bed or she'll never forgive me! lol

Fangache - yes, when in doubt, drink red wine is my motto and always will be .

Of course like everything else that's potentially harmful (TV, McDonalds, sweeties etc) the answer is to use your common sense! Excess alcohol can be a problem even when you're not pregnant! And guess what - smoking can kill! It's hardly news.

Wordsmith - True.... non-smokers and teetotallers die every day too!

yes true but new research suggests that ANY alcohol when pg can be harmful

not saying its true, but interesting

Really don't know how they can possibly reserach this.... don't suppose there are many women queueing up to try out the theory!!

no drinking recommended in France

also alcohol carries warning stickers 'May damage your unborn baby'

But don't they allow soft cheese and pate in france, which is a big no no here because of listeria etc?

And if a glass of wine helps you wind down/relax, doesn't that help offset the harm that stress/anxiety has on the baby?

Swings... roundabouts...

yes I know what you mean but I think there is some evidence that alcohol can trigger actual changes in the babies brain rather than just being amorphously 'bad' IYSWIM

I thought everyone knew this?

fwiw i knew of two alcoholic mothers who had kids, one had a sone with FAS and one normal son and the other had two very healthy children. She drank 4 bottles of wine plus and day and first lady drank a bottle of whiskey a day

I had a binge drink whilst pregnant w/DD. Was probably about ten days after conception. I had no idea I was pregnant b/c my period wasn't due yet.

It was DH's birthday and we all went out and I drank voddy + OJ till I was sick.

But after I found out I didn't drink again b/c I was horribly morning/all day sick.

This time round, I've had an occassional beer - no wine, don't want it for some reason.

Haven't had anything recently - just haven't wanted it.

i couldnt drink when pregnant with either of mine which is most unusual

I think that Stacey is showing us that an awful lot of people, especially quite young mums like her, don't realise how bad binge-drinking is in general, or don't care. The message isn't getting thru. If she was 17 she shouldn't have been getting drunk at all, should she? Not legally having any booze except what her parents served at the table. Why has no one commented on that? There's a whole cultural thing that has gone wrong, here.

Not having a go at you Stacey, just pointing out that you are alot closer to the reality of the lives of many young mums than many or maybe most of us MNers.

I always knew and was told that an excess of alcohol was bad. Am getting fed up of all these 'reports' though, who knows what is really 'best' anymore.

I was told that the gov't is now saying no alcohol at all whilst pregnant precisely due to our binge drinking culture.

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no i shouldnt have been drinking but was, and could have potentially harmed my baby if id continued, i didnt really know how bad the effects could be, i did stop drinking, but what if i hadnt???

Freakyzebra has hit the nail on the head, the young binge drink even when they know they shouldn't, but don't know/want to know of the concequences for whatever reason. Why would we expect them to be aware/want to know of the dangers to the unborn baby when they aren't/don't want to be aware of the dangers to themselves?

I knew I was pg when at christmas I completely went off Jack Daniels. Only concieved in the November but baby didn't like JD & when I did a pg test it was posative. From then on the mere thought of more than 1 glass of wine now & then was enough to make me throw up. Very bad all day, 9 month sickness thing!

FZ, I agree with you, Mumsnet is cloud cuckoo land sometimes.

There are females out there getting pregnant for money.

There are females getting pregnant without fully understanding the Biology of how.

There are females out there getting pregnant and not getting any antenatal care, because they don't bother turning up to appointments.

There are females out there who still go clubbing until 4 in the morning when 6 months pregnant.

There are females out there who refuse to give up smoking because they want a small baby.

There are females out there who would never consider breastfeeding because they think it is disgusting and perverted.

But there aren't many of these females in middle class areas, in the catchment of middle class hospitals, and in car accessable only areas. They don't tend to have access to the internet either. They don't think they are strange, they behave in exactly the same way as their friends with babies/bumps.

So the typical mumsnet user never meets them. and when she does, is shocked that they exist.

My actual point being, that I agree with Original Poster, that there are females out there who don't know it is dangerous to binge drink, but could possibly be made to care, with the right information. She has a good point. Not everyone has any common sense before they have a child, especially if they are very young.

im glad somebody understands what i mean, im not saying that it would make everybody stop drinking during pregnancy but maybe some, esp my age group if i had known id probably have stopped all together, i just feel that it should be common knowledge and from my experience its not!

I was told that the latest guidelines were no alcohol at all during pregnancy when I was pg with dd2 9 years ago. I'm one of those who wouldn't have in any case.

With dd1 I was too young to drink legally and didn't because I hadn't yet developed a taste for it.