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Strictly Come Dancing II

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CaveMum · 20/11/2010 19:05

We've filled up one thread, let's see if we can get through another before the end of the series!

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Idontknowhowtohelpher · 29/11/2010 00:11

I thought that Karen Hardy spoke slowly to make sure that it was clear, because of her partial deafness. Or am I confusing her with someone else?

Prolesworth · 29/11/2010 00:22

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oxocube · 29/11/2010 07:38

Oh I didn't know that. I like her though and unlike Alisha, she knows what she is talking about! See below from Wiki -

"At the age of eight Hardy was diagnosed with a rare and acute form of ear cancer. Despite successive operations the cancer returned three times, before a last-ditch operation when she was twenty one cleared the cancer permanently. As a result of the cancer Hardy has lost 70% of the hearing in her left ear."

Bucharest · 29/11/2010 07:48

I remember reading that, and noticed this year she seems to be speaking slightly more nasally, so wondered if her hearing had worsened.

I didn't like her though when she was actually competing as she was almost as up herself as that dreadful Natalie (it's about me woman) doing punchy armed Andy Murray things all the time when she got a good score.

She is much nicer, and yes, very knowledgeable now she's on the sofa and I would vote her in for replacement to Alisha any day!

oxocube · 29/11/2010 09:22

If the dreadful Ann wins, then I think Craig should threaten to leave unless a different judging system is put in place for the next series. This really is a farce and a huge embarrassment to the BBC Hmm

Tangle · 29/11/2010 10:00

See I don't buy that the judges are over marking to give the better dancers a chance against the public vote - the couple with the poorest judges mark scores 1, the 2nd lowest 2, etc. It doesn't matter whether there is a differential in actual marks of 1 or 21, they'll still score 1 and 2 from the judges.

I can't decide whether the judges are marking against a constant standard, the standard they expect for a given week or the standard they expect for a specific celebrity in a given week. I completely agree that Craig is the only judge who seems to score transparently. I wonder if part of the problem was that such high marks were awarded in the first week - IIRC nearly everyone was over 20 at that point. Most of the judges effectively lost half their range of marks before the Series even started.

I'm also getting fed up that Craig (and Len to a lesser extent) gets booed nearly every time he opens his mouth and is critical however mildly he phrases it - he may not be the most tactful, but at least he's usually clear and has a valid point - whereas because Bruno makes a joke of it all he seems to get away with making comments that are just downright nasty.

Re. scoring for Matt's American Smooth, I think what's being seen is a weakness/inexperience in Aliona's choreography. It was a beautiful dance performed to foxtrot music - but that doesn't make it an American Smooth. There was the bare minimum of foxtrot and lots of flash. What really suprises me is that Len really marked someone down for doing exactly the same thing a few weeks back (and its really bugging me I can't remember who now!) - so why is she repeating mistakes? Quite why Scott scored so highly I haven't got a clue, though.

I think Gavin should have gone ahead of Patsy, though. He's come a long way and does seem to be getting into a bit more now, but he still doesn't give the impression of really enjoying it that much. To me it makes it boring to watch.

And rant over Blush

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dalek · 29/11/2010 12:18

I thought Kara's american smooth was fantastic -easily the best so far.

Have said to DH before that Aliona's choreography is all about showing her off in the best light - Matt definitely deservs better. Also like some others here I just cannot warm to her.

I love Artem though - think he's brill.

Agree with others that Pamela definitely made some errors so the 10's were a bit much.

Although I really like her I think that Patsy has been consistenly overmarked.

I agree that Scott was over marked but I love him. Thought both his jive and the ballroom one he did on Hallowe'en week (can you tell I'm not a dancer Grin?)were absolutely brilliant. Hope he manages to get some sleep this week.

Can't even comment on Anne as I just disregard her - she's not in a dancing competition - she's in a "let's see how much we can humiliate a "celebrity"" competition - and at the moment she's winning

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Itsjustafleshwound · 29/11/2010 13:02

I still think the judges shouldn't mark each dance, but RANK the dancers according to how well they did in comparison to the competition - it would be so much fairer in some respects (and give the judges the chance to really judge !!!)

CaveMum · 29/11/2010 13:33

I've always thought that the judges should each Mark a different aspect, eg:

Len - Technique
Craig - Choreography
Bruno - Musicality
Alesha - Performance

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noddyholder · 29/11/2010 15:20

I think they shouldn't bring in the public vote until fter several weks and then all the 'joke' acts will have been eliminated by the judges by then and it will be a selection of people who can actually dance.maybe the last 6?

noddyholder · 29/11/2010 15:21

sorry for typos

LivinInThe80s · 29/11/2010 18:09

Felt a bit sorry for Patsy, I really think Gavin should have gone last night (well, obv it should have been Ann, but I'm resigned to the fact it's not going to happen!! Angry)

I love, love, love Claudia, she was so funny interviewing Gavin!

fartmeistergeneral · 30/11/2010 17:50

Getting well dodgy now tho. I mean, who is going to be in the bottom 2 on Saturday with Gavin? Not Anne obviously (grrrrrrr) so it will be one of the 'fab 4' which is utterly ridiculous!!! Hoping for Pamela because I just can't warm to her at all. That beaming face just annoys me and her 'hilarious' relationship with James really grates. So, supposing Gavin goes on Sat, what about next week? Are we going to see eg Matt and Scott in the bottom 2 because people are actually, for whatever crazed reason, voting for Anne? I will be mightily pissed off I tells ya!

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Snowstorm · 30/11/2010 19:30

Kara's the only one that makes me go rigid with tension when I watch and I've realised that's because I'm rooting for her so much and want her to win. Bearing that bias in mind, and also Scott's 'breakdown', I think that she's the only one who has been consistently good and so very much hope that she gets to the final. I think Matt would have had a much greater chance of winning if he'd been with Natalie who is, regardless of what else you think of her, an amazing dancer/choreographer.

Anne to one side as no amount of wishing seems to get rid of her, Gavin is clearly the weakest dancer now and I think that the type of dances that Scott, Matt and Pamela get given, will now dictate their chances each week. I'm not sure if I've explained this very well.

I'd like to see it end like this: Kara to win; Matt as runner up; Scott third (and then put on bed rest until he's got some sleep); Pamela fourth.

jsgirl · 30/11/2010 20:05

Seeing as they're doing a Movie Night theme this weekend, I have an idea for Anton and the Widdie Woman.

The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe.

Anton dresses in a lion costume - sparkly of course.

The Witch is self-explanatory.

Anton pushes the Widdie Woman into the wardrobe and she vanishes! Ta da!

DownyEmerald · 30/11/2010 20:21

I've just kind of ignored Ann til now, but what if she does get kept in? Chris Hollins winning last year I could live with - the Charleston was superb.

But Ann can't dance, is her own personal integrity actually going to let her win? Is that what the BBC want?

I agree with Snowstorm, much as I'd like Matt to win, I think Kara has been brilliant. And yes, if they get unlucky and have a dance that doesn't suit them that will probably dictate it. Or a dress messing things up which seems to have happened a lot this year - [hard stare at the costume people].

Oh well at least dd hasn't got into this year (maybe because she is mostly asleep). She still keeps saying "I want Ali and Brian to win"!

Prolesworth · 30/11/2010 20:49

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pinkteddy · 30/11/2010 22:43

You're right Prolesworth she hasn't done any of those. She's danced Cha cha, Foxtrot, Quickstep, Charleston, Paso doble, salsa, argentine tango, american smooth and jive. List of dances and scores they have all done are on the bbc website if you're interested. Samba is a difficult one to do late on. Pamela hasn't done samba yet either.

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MrsKitty · 01/12/2010 01:10

Great Idea Jsgirl Grin. Failing that, how about the Wizard of Oz - I know they had her dressed up as Dorothy on the trailers last week, but maybe she could change into the Wicked Witch, and Anton could either drop a house on her, or chuck a bucket of water over her...Job's a good 'un.

Snowstorm · 01/12/2010 11:54

Oooh at the thought of Kara and Artem doing a rumba!!!

jsgirl · 01/12/2010 13:14

MrsKitty - I like the way you think Xmas Grin.

(Not too soon for the Christmas smileys is it? It is December after all!)

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