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The Hospital - last one on liver problems

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EightiesChick · 23/08/2010 21:10

Anyone watching? I can't believe the 22 yo can function every day at work drinking so much every night! (Don't know if she works, but she must pay for it somehow) [judgy emoticon] She'll notice the absence of her liver when it's screwed up...

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EightiesChick · 23/08/2010 21:45

It's not putting me off. Have always been committed to organ donation regardless. But I have a major lack of sympathy for many of these people.

jeee Sorry about your sister.

As for the woman saying 'I don't know anyone my age who does't do this...', maybe that's because you only hang around with pissheads?

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sorrento56 · 23/08/2010 21:45

She is coming across as a stupid woman.

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 23/08/2010 21:45

Expat - please remember that this programme will show people with 'personalities' and extreme cases, it makes better tv.

Not every adult or child on the transplant list has abused their livers, some are born with conditions or suffer from acute liver failure - cause unknown.

Even though we lost our son, we had 7 extra months with him because of the generosity of the families who agreed to their loved one's organs being donated.

sorrento56 · 23/08/2010 21:45

Is she a sheep? She has to do what everyone else does? Hmm

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EightiesChick · 23/08/2010 21:46

Iliketomoveitmoveit Sorry about your son. This must be hard for you and jeee to watch.

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expatinscotland · 23/08/2010 21:46

How sad that these people don't see any other way to enjoy life but getting pissed.

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EightiesChick · 23/08/2010 21:46

I like the consultant who is actually telling it to them straight. Good for him.

Head in the sand, Nikki!

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maxpower · 23/08/2010 21:48

expat it's approaching the same argument about treating smokers - does society say that anyone who has ever smoked shouldn't be entitled to treatment on the NHS for any 'smoking-related' diseases?

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 23/08/2010 21:48

Thanks ladies.

It is hard to watch, especially as I know most of the healthcare professionals on there. I've paced those corridors and I've wept tears of joy and sorrow in them too.

Aitch · 23/08/2010 21:49

so very sorry to hear of your losses. this has been a phenomenal series imo (and i did tell you all to watch it. Wink)
i also thought the diabetes one was fascinating, £10,000 to run a clinic that no-one turns up to... must be a better way to do things.

expatinscotland · 23/08/2010 21:55

I really don't need to be scolded, max Hmm, anymore than anyone else does. It's a personal decision for everyone.

I said it was putting me off, but not that I wouldn't do it, or that it's anyone's business.

I do think it's a good series.

LetThereBeRock · 23/08/2010 21:55

I can understand people's feelings re some of the people who are receiving livers and continuing to drink/abuse drugs.

It is depressing to see how little regard some people have for the medical teams who try to help them,for the money it costs to treat them and for the organs that are donated to them.

However your liver could save the life of someone like this.

I joined the donor list because of her story.

LetThereBeRock · 23/08/2010 21:56

I could only watch half of the diabetes episode because it frustrated me so much.

sorrento56 · 23/08/2010 21:57

She is a stupid cow and that child puts her to shame.

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expatinscotland · 23/08/2010 21:57

I feel really sorry for that old man, but he's already very ill, unfortunately.

If the person doesn't have a good chance of surviving the operation, it's not good practice to do it.

maxpower · 23/08/2010 21:58

that young boy puts the 'adult' patients to shame

expatinscotland · 23/08/2010 21:59

The HepC guy was trying to improve his life, too. He was doing better.

My aunt contracted HepC from a blood transfusion in the 1970s and had no idea she had it until she was in her 50s! She had a baby, even, but it was in 1979 before they tested women like they do now, although she had to have a CS as the reason she had the transfusions was after being hit by a car that required much metal in her pelvis and leg, hence needing a CS.

Thankfully, she's now in her 60s and hasn't had any major problems from it.

maxpower · 23/08/2010 22:00

expat no intention to scold - I was sympathising with your point about the patients they showed putting people off the idea of organ donation. That's largely because people hear the back story (eg alcoholic, drug abuser etc) and think that as they've done that to themselves, the don't 'deserve' an organ. However, they have to prove they're clean before they can be considered for transplant. It's a tough one and I'm just glad I don't have to make such decisions.

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EightiesChick · 23/08/2010 22:00

She doesn't see any links to the fatty liver disease! Like she's the bleeding expert! Angry Idiot, idiot woman.

All that aside, I am on the donor list. It is depressing to see nitwits like this, but IMO it's no good not doing something that won't cost me (I won't be there, and my family know my wishes) just in case it helps some undeserving idiot, when it's quite possible it will help someone who really needs it.

The decision process will have to get much harsher as this becomes a bigger problem. I remember a medical student doing a hospital placement in 2004 saying to me that working in liver diseases would be a booming area in 15 years. He was ahead of the game.

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EightiesChick · 23/08/2010 22:01

The diabetes ep was also fascinating but, again, hugely frustrating.

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sethstarkaddersmum · 24/08/2010 10:14

I thought it was quite telling when the 33 year old woman said the worst case scenario was that she would need a liver transplant one day. No love, the worst case scenario is that you need a transplant but can't get one or it doesn't work and you die.

AxisofEvil · 24/08/2010 10:23

Unfortunately the world is full of stupid people unwilling to look after themselves and that has come out in each of the hospital programmes. The determination of the 14 year old to do what he had to do compared extremely favourably to most of the other people shown in the programme.

I got a letter this week from the transplant service asking me to reconfirm my elections - something about lost data. I didn't hesitate to tick the box that says take any part of me. Yes I wouldn't be thrilled about the idea of the life long drinking 68 year old with a heart condition getting my liver over others but I'd rather leave the decision to the doctors about that sort of thing - having to play god on one of those committees is a horrific though.

scarylooker · 25/08/2010 12:11

Couldn't watch this as my cousin had a second liver transplant yesterday (liver failure due to the side effects of drugs taken to combat a serious long-term health problem).

His first transplant wasn't ideal but has bought him the chance to be with his wife and small son for a few more years. Hopefully this one will be more successful. I think it's probably a good thing we don't get to choose who our organs go to - I'm with axisofevil on that one.

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