anyone watching "my wierd and wonderful family"?

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Can't make my mind up atm what I think...

the bloke who is there for the babies births is VILE. truly vile

and that little girl is truly sad :-( I mean she is unhappy -

I know what you mean, it's hard to get my head around that she's given birth to those twins, but she's not related at all to them

why is she sad horntail?

she just seems so sad, talking about her biological mum...

Not because she has 2 dads; just because she seems to want a relationship with her biological mother

Tony seems really nice, but I'm not keen on Barry at all. That 'revulsion' at the idea of vaginal birth... please

yep, might be the editing n all that, but Barry is a slimy one imho. Saffron did seem really sad about her biological mother, and has said she doesn't want any children - says it all really

she seemed happy to me - i thought the kids seem lovely

not sure the 'only gay in the prep school' dad bit and 'pantomime dame' bit is a good idea

bit more happening city school might be better

i thought the whole family was great,very open with the children,and the children seemed very happy and content

good luck to them all id be proud for them to be my parents

I thought what lovely normal children they were. In fact I think a lot of people could learn a lot from the lovely Aspen on how to deal with unpleasent people. Aspen told a couple of stories where attempts had been made to bully eg

Bully: You're going to go grow up to be like your dad!
Aspen: What? Rich and famous???!

Another one:

Bully: You're going to grow up gay like your dad!
Aspen: And why would that be be a problem?
Bully:Errrr....................I wouldn't want to be gay
Aspen: Well I don't see the problem?

Classic on how to stand up to people without resorting to violence and not let your self become the victim.

Lovely, confident, well brought up children who contrary to what the others say all seemed happy and content (apart from the issue re Saffron bio mum)

agree that they seem very balanced, thoughtful and well brought up. Hat off to the dads for coping with two lots of twins!!

Thought Aspen (and Orlando) seemed great; and Saffron too - just sad.

sorry, still think Barrie is creepy and not very nice...

at Barry and his opinion on natural birth.

Hmmm.Not a pleasant chap imo.

well, the one thing i got from it is that they both are people who feel like they have a lot of love to give, all those pets would drive me mad.

but tbfair i thought the kids were lovely, i definitely agree that the little girl is feeling very confused about what relationship she is supposed to have with her biological mother. and also the older boy seemed to not fully understand who he was biologically either.

i do think barrie was vile, i mean, likening the surrogate to an overdue dog or horse????

I thought Barrie was vile too.

I thought it was also concerning that they went for personality, IQ etc the first time around then went for looks with the twin babies. If I was a child and heard that I would assume I was ugle and they had got it wrong the first time.

His views on birth were disgusting. Therefore I couldnt take him seriously. Plus pinching the teachers bum...wtf? Even if my male best friend worked in a school I certainly wouldnt be doing that in front of my partner, kids, parents and other kids. Totally inappropriate.

The boys seemed happy and confident, but I wanted to take that little girl and say how proud I was of her for saying sod off to girly stuff. She looked so unconfortable all primped and made up, and her little face when she chose the "wrong" shoes.

It should have shown more of the Dad, less of the attention seeking Daddy.

If they want to educate their kids, they need to also balance it with how children are also "naturally" born and conceived.

I thought their kids were gorgeous, happy and well balanced. Their house was a real family home with all the animals. Barry did make some silly comments but the whole family came over really well.

I thought the same about the little girl too. She just didn't seem as confident as the boys-she did seem sad about her biological mum. Maybe it was jsut that she was surrounded by boys, including her 2 dads and felt she needed a girl around too. I hope that idiot Barry does not express his seemingly negative views on women in front of her. I didn't get who the father of all the children was though. Are they all Barry's? I hope not- the other dad seemed much nicer and not so much of a numpty.

i think that barrie is the father of one of the older twins and the other dad (tony?) is the father of the other. not sure which is which though and whichever is the dad of aspen is teh dad of orlando because it was a split egg. not sure who is teh father of teh younger twins though but i think it was the same dad because i got the impression tehy were identical? i did hear gaby roslin asking them if all their chidlren were related and barrie said yes. i was trying to work out how.

yy, Barrie was horrible. Fecking rude about everything. especially women. And he had crap taste in clothes. That little girl wil rebel and go Goth in a few years.

Was a bit about them involving the other children so much, although I can see why they wanted to do it. The surrogate mum might have changed her mind then they'd have some explaining to do.

The children did all seem lovely though . And the other Dad had his head screwed on.

I said this on another thread about Barrie, i was a bit at his reaction to the possibility of one of the twins having Downs Syndrome. He said it was to late for a 'reduction' and that if the baby had had DS that they would have a baby with that disability and that the option of adoption or fostering was always there. As a single sex family they may have been subjected to some degree of by society at large and i would have thought that he would have been ultra protective of that twin given that he might not have fitted their exact criteria.

Added to this the little girl said she would stand up for and protect her sibling if he turned out to have DS which i thought was very sweet but i cant help thinking that Barrie was a bit of an arse for that comment and that its a shame that he was so concerned with getting what he had paid for and that it was perfect.

And wtf was he on about saying that his biggest regret was not being able to have babies with Tony that just they had been able to make. Call me stupid but surely a regret is something that you wish you had done (i.e. within the realms of possibility) this was clearly not.

He was also a twat over the vaginal birth thing - Freddy Kruger! I really dont like him after watching that programme and feel a bit sorry for his kids being around such a vacuous and shallow human being, Im sure he loves them but still he doesnt seem to be a very nice person tbh.

rp I did was when he said that about the possibility of having a child with DS. Shallow is too nice for him.

Yeah well i was just being polite

yes i too was when he gave his thoughts on one one of the babies having DS. it was as if it was a defective commodity that he could dispose of and no doubt would replace with another 'perfect' baby. i am not for one minute saying that he was wrong to think a baby with DS presented problems they wouldn't have with a baby without it (not sure of the correct term for that) but for him to immediately reject it as, 'not fit for purpose' (this is the impression i got, not what he said) was very sad.

booyhoo i think you put it alot better than me but that is it exactly wrt commodities, the women, the babies ect - i know its somewhat of a business transaction (espcially in the U.S.) but his reaction over the possibility of the twin not being quite perfect was shitty to say the least.

I also felt that they had bought their way into the school that they sent their children to in some ways - the teacher who had his arse pinched was known to the couple prior to him getting that job as a teacher there and im sure i heard that he had been recommended by the couple.

I agree that Barrie is vile. His attitude to women and in particular women's bodies is horrible but not unknown among some gay men.
His comments about the possibility of a vaginal birth were really misogynistic.

The children are lovely though agree with others that some parts of this programme were incredibly sad.

The little girl in particular seemed to have a real silent longing for a mother.

To deliberately deny the newborn twins any hope of finding their biological mother was especially heartbreaking and cruel.