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Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

Why do I care so much about teenage daughter's complicated relationships?

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CaliforniaDreams · 15/09/2009 11:30

Hi, sorry this is a long post but I'm new to teenage traumas and would really appreciate some advice from someone who's been there before!

My DD has just turned 16, the eldest (hence we've not been there before!) and has recently blossomed into an attractive young woman after being a late developer (pds started only last summer!) She is slim, small, funny, talented and popular with her friends of both sexes and with no shortage of potential dates. However, apart from one brief "dalliance" last year which lasted a couple of months, and which she admitted later was a disaster (her words!), she has never dated in the traditional sense.

There is however one boy in her circle of friends (let's call him Jason) whom she has known for about two years and who I have long suspected has been very keen on her. Over the last six months there has been loads of flirting and horseplay, more than in the average platonic relationship at any rate! My conclusion was that she likes him a lot but is not ready for a relationship yet. As for Jason, his feelings were confirmed recently by his mum, while we were having a chat at an event attended by both our children. She volunteered the information as clearly wanted to find out more from me, and she told me that he had returned home angry and jealous one evening when DD had been asked out by another lad whom they both know, right in front of him! I knew what she meant because I had been there at the time. Unfortunately he had left thinking that DD and this other lad were an item. I was able to confirm to his mum that this was not the case, but by then he had already made a serious decision about accepting a place on a university course he was unsure about, partially based on his assumption that she was now with somebody else.

That was a few weeks ago and Jason recently had a leaving party at his house, with the guests camping out in the garden. DD had not been feeling well and retired early to her tent. What shocks me though is that Jason spent the entire evening very publicly "with" another girl (I've seen the pictures!) - a friend of DDs who had come to the party with another boy. I thought something was strange when I phoned Jason's mum about an unconnected matter the following day and she didn't seem keen to talk to me - perhaps she now regrets confiding in me about her son when he now seems to have shifted his attention in such a fickle way. However DD does not seem in the least bothered and wants both Jason and her friend to come to our house this weekend for a final evening of "chilling" before Jason sets off for uni next week. Trouble is, after the way Jason has been with DD, I don't think I could stomach seeing him all over another girl, especially at our house. I can't understand why I should care about this so much - a weird kind of "proxy" jealousy - but perhaps it's just that I want some kind of reassurance that DD is normal, and not having issues with her sexuality (is she perhaps gay?) or maybe inwardly seething about the situation and becoming seriously depressed about it - especially as the girl concerned goes to her school. I've tried talking to her but just get the brush-off. I'm hoping some experienced MNetter will come on here and tell me to back off and leave them to it, but she is so immature in many ways and I'm afraid she will get badly hurt somewhere along the line.

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CaliforniaDreams · 16/09/2009 10:55

Ginnny, thanks - that seems to be what we are doing!!!

We are indeed going to be there for her. However, we are already anticipating the next problem - what happens if she asks to go and visit him at uni? She has already raised this with us - fortunately it's close enough for a daytrip but she wants to stay overnight...They are just good friends and both responsible, so there shouldn't be any problem, right?

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Remotew · 16/09/2009 11:11

I have some of DD's friends added to my list on a well known social networking site, the've also added me but I am aware if I'm being seen to be taking too much of an interest she will delete me and tell her friends to.

CaliforniaDreams · 16/09/2009 11:29

I likewise live under that ever-present threat!

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ginnny · 16/09/2009 11:33

From what you have said about her so far, I would let her go and visit him at uni, maybe suggest a day trip to start with then overnight stays later on if she wants.
TBH the friendship probably will fizzle out naturally once he starts uni and meets new people anyway.
Oh to be 16 again

Remotew · 16/09/2009 11:43

Oh yes forgot to mention, I would let her go and visit him at Uni too.

Tortington · 16/09/2009 11:43

gosh it is difficult isn't it? my daughter her one and only serious relationship of 4 months and when she ended it, she was heartbroken nontheless and she cuddled up in bed with me and just cried with a dramatic "mummy it hurts!" i was almost crying too!

you know its going to happen and that they are going to get hurt in the young flourish of love, but all you can do is be the safety net, someone they will turn to.

It sounds like your a fab mum and i don't think by expressing your feelings on here that transfers into being an overly interfering parent.

it is just so difficult.

i still have the huge xmas card her boyfriend never got to give her. i am not sure quite what to do with it!

i am sure she would have a great time if she went to see him at uni, but they probably would end up in some sort of sexual encounter so get her on the pill and give her some condoms. even if you are positive she's not that kind of girl - your biased!

Remotew · 16/09/2009 11:46

TBH I'm dreading this sort of thing. DD is 15 now so the attention from boys is stepping up. I try not to look too interested but of course I am and just want her to know she can tell me anything she wants.

mumeeee · 16/09/2009 11:59

I would just leave her to it. Not every 16 year old rushes out to be involved with a boy. DD1 had several firneds who were boys when she was 16. But she didn't actually have a boyfriend until she was 19. She is now 22 and maried.

CaliforniaDreams · 16/09/2009 12:44

Ginnny, maybe it will fizzle out, maybe not - but what makes this different is that it's not simply someone she got together with at a party or school and has brought home but someone she met through a shared passion, and we've seen the friendship develop into what it is now rather than simply being presented with it. Someone asked what was so special about this guy, no he isn't rich, just a really nice, genuine young man who cares deeply about DD and would look after her. That's not to say that they wouldn't be tempted by the dreaded combination of hormones and strong feelings, with the added pressure in this case of a year's worth of pent-up emotions...so you are right, Custardo - she won't even be going for a day trip unprepared!

(BTW regarding the Christmas card, DD split up with her one and only previous bf just before Xmas. She told me what she was about to do, wanted to get it over with and not leave it until the New Year, afterwards he kept ringing asking to deliver her present which he had already bought and I kept having to find excuses - it was terrible )

I don't quite know what to make of this, either...DD told me this morning (again, completely out of the blue - I only talk about it if she wants me to) that J is already looking ahead to his planned postgrad studies which he would be starting about the same time that DD starts uni if she takes a gap year, she thinks maybe they could apply to the same place...it's almost as if they are trying to plan their lives around one another...surely too young to be talking like that?

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CaliforniaDreams · 16/09/2009 12:47

I should have said in my last post that even though they are very close they seem to be wanting different things - he wants a gf and she wants a good friend, maybe more, maybe not - not sure how long it can go on like this though.

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Tortington · 16/09/2009 12:54

its all in teh frission and the drama

once he gets to uni ( sorry to be so blunt) i imagine he will be fking like a rabbit, getting wasted and being gernally studenty

CaliforniaDreams · 16/09/2009 12:59

Do they all behave like that then? I didn't! And nor did DH! (or says he didn't - at least not until he met me...)

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cory · 16/09/2009 13:26

Californiadreamer, I think you hit it on the head when you said: "they seem to be wanting different things." But what she wants is as valid as what he wants iyswim.

The fact that she is talking about their studies together doesn't make her seem too old; it makes her sound quite young and innocent and maybe not really ready for more than a platonic relationship with this particular man.

Anyway, I do wonder about your post that "Jason would look after her". At 16, isn't it better for her to be allowed to mature to a point where she can be the equal partner in any relationship? It sounds to me, from everything you are saying, as if this would be quite an unequal relationship: she is younger than him (going from your 12:44 post), she is young for her age, he strikes you as someone to look after her.

It does sound as if you are eager to get her settled. Why? Is it so she never has to go through the heartbreak of losing her friend to another woman? (I can understand you then, but not a lot that can be done about that- either she wants him as a lover or she doesn't)

Or are you afraid that she will never get settled? (but she is only 16)

Are you afraid she for some reason will find it particularly difficult to find a trustworthy man or that she won't cope with living on her own (note: not everybody has to be married or settled down; and some that do take years to find their life partner)

tbh I think it is very unusual for a girl to find Mr Right at the age of 16

I do understand about your hating to see her hurt- but you seemed worried about it even when you thought she might not be that upset.

Supposing she gets over it quite quickly and Jason settles down happily with somebody else- would you still be upset? And if so, why?

CaliforniaDreams · 16/09/2009 13:44

Cory - I probably used the wrong phrase by "look after" - I really meant treat her well and respect her (which was why I was so surprised by last weekend's escapades!). I should have mentioned that J is also very young for his age in both looks and maturity. The discussion about future plans was started by him, not her. To answer your questions, I certainly don't want her to settle any sooner than she is ready, she is very young and has years of hard work and study ahead of her to enter her chosen career. And it is only in relationships that she is immature and inexperienced - in everything else I'm sure she's perfectly capable of fending for herself! If J settles with someone else of course I won't be upset, only sad for her if she is hurt as a result. I'm not thinking long-term here, it's the getting through the next few weeks that will be a challenge, as I said before the change in situation is forcing her to face up to things she might have preferred to put on hold for a bit longer. DH told me last night that he'd been dreading this situation for some time.

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sockadoodledo · 16/09/2009 20:18

Aw leave them be
DD had a few puppy dog eyed male friends hanging around over the years
Being together wouldnt have worked
She did her dating with complete idiots who we silently disapproved off - they're long gone but the friends are still there, without the longing expressions, now they're all back from uni.
Getting bruised about is part of being a teen, be there if she's upset but don't go looking for things to make into big deals.

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