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troubled 15 yr old- urgent help

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distraughtmum56 · 04/09/2009 23:07

DS15 (my only child), who is 16 next month, has developed some problems and Im at my wits end trying to deal with them... To summarise, DS is bright but socially awkward and I have spent 10 years looking after him on a single parent basis- father only around a few days per month for visits.

We are living in my mother's house at the moment as I haven't a job and don't want to lower myself to claiming benefits. DS has had enough of living with me and his grandmother and has announced he is leaving home to live in supported accomodation when he turns 16. This is only weeks away and I dont know what to do, legally there is nothing I can do to stop him but I just wish he would be safe... He isnt really ready to live alone (can't cook, doesn't like cleaning, etc.) and I cant see whats wrong with staying to complete college? He has now decided to leave school and apply for a job on a cash in hand/informal basis, as legally he has a year of compulsery education left and big places would flag that up and therefore refuse him for the job.

He has psychiatric issues and refuses to live by the rules of society- he is foul mouthed and called me a C*m swallowing C!@t while he was high on drugs, into extreme hardcore porn which he discusses with strangers and underage girls, loves drugs and plans to relapse on them as soon as he earns money- I have had to stop his allowance due to lack of child support from father, so now he cannot afford to buy any supplies. DS says his behaviour is just "ahead of its time" and social standards will change one day so it will be accepted. I reminded him he must survive in the here and now, but he said he'd prefer to be "underground" and a "strung out pervert" than obey the law or live what I think is a decent life.

He was permanently excluded from the local comp for reading other people's data in the headteacher office- because he believes it is unfair child-protection files are kept under wraps and the public are not allowed to access them. He had a relationship with someone who discussed child protection issues explicitly with him at age 11 and says thats what "f*&!ed him up", and he has "Withdrawal symptoms" from the data he accessed then. He goes to CAMHs who prescribed anti-depressants (at DS's insistence, I was skeptical about the whole pills idea) and offered counselling- but he declined this because the counsellor told him off for mentioning extreme porn movies and promoting drug use. They are now moving him to adult services which is another worry for me as this may go on the record for any jobs he applies for when older- if he changes his mind about living underground on drug profits.

I have to suffer him every day being rude, repeating the same things about leaving home and drugs etc which lead to the same old arguments. I've had enough and could anyone who has had experience please tell me a way forward? Also has anyone else got experience with non-professionals illegally reading social service files?

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ange8 · 10/09/2009 17:36

Your own views about child protection seem incredibly similar to those of your son. I see you have revived this old thread with comments about the so-called 'common abduction framework'. Hmmm

distraughtmum56 · 12/09/2009 01:05

Ange & Haskell, im wondering why you're questioning me instead of being supportive?
Haskell- you don't seem to believe that school teachers are perversion co-ordinators (but anyone who worked in a school wouldn't give you THAT definition of "CPC".)

Ange- I've never claimed to disagree with my son on child protection. It's my son's views on drugs, sex, morals and leaving home so young which disturb me. And why are you referring to a Government paper as "so-called". Everyone should know the CAF is a real danger to private and family life. It is often used to assess the suitability of a child for being abducted from their parents into care or adoptive family. Why do you think it's not real?

When I'm disbelieved like this I wonder if I have a problem. DS even had marks struck off in school for writing "Working together to Sequestrate Children 2006" in a English essay on improving children's services etc. Can anyone explain why that's wrong- I homeschooled him for FOUR YEARS (5-9) and can't see the bad grammar or spelling in that phrase.

I have decided to ignore ds now, I refuse to speak to him at all about most things, just blanking him out is quite effective for peace and quiet. When I don't answer him he shouts at me and eventually leaves the room (often going out to shop or meet friends.)

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ange8 · 12/09/2009 01:14

I say so-called because there is no 'common abduction framework', goverment paper or anyhting else. This is your term. I assume you are referring to the common assessment framework, although I may be wrong as you appear to have your own terms for lots of things.

I, like you, am concerned for your son. I hope that the sheltered accommodation that he is planning to move to has some supportive adults that can help him.

mumblechum · 12/09/2009 08:32

This is becoming a very odd thread

noddyholder · 12/09/2009 08:42

Good lord clicked on this as I too have a 15 yr old son but from what i am reading and the tone and language within these posts I think this sounds like a teenager posting tbh

chimchar · 12/09/2009 08:58

it has become very odd indeed mumble!

to distraughtmum. i used to do some work in a hostel for homeless adults in a capital city centre. it was a very grim place indeed...certainly not the kind of place you would go to through choice.

the staff there were fantastic, and helped me out on more than one occasion...we would take young adults there who were intent on running away or making themselves homeless and the staff would let them sit and listen to the life stories of some of the residents there...they were told the real ins and outs of life on the streets, the reality of hard core drug dependence, how it feels to be alone with no support and no way out...it really gave the kids a wake up cxall and a harsh reality check. there is nothing nice about watching two drunk men trying to fight eachother, or sitting quietly in a corner whilst a guy off his face on crystal meth threatens anyone who comes within two metres of him....

i'm wondering if somewhere local to you would do the same for your son.

he sounds as if he has some really major issues which need to be assessed...

i wish you both luck.

distraughtmum56 · 12/09/2009 22:37

what would be the point in telling DS about drug dependency? I have told him many times about it? He stubbornly refuses to listen though. And some of you are right, arguing over whether the common abduction framework exists or not does nothing for my son.

I don't know what more to add, I have already explained the problems and am grateful for the support I received. Now this seems to be a slanging match over terminology.

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LauraIngallsWilder · 12/09/2009 22:53

Sorry distraught but I too am really confused

In one of your posts you say your ds wrote this sentance:
"Working together to Sequestrate Children 2006" in an essay and that it is very good grammar

Why would a teenager write that in an essay? It doesnt appear to make sense and doesnt seem like good grammar to me!

If your story is genuine then you do indeed have a very tricky problem - in helping your son
I think you need professional support at the level you will never find on the internet

To me though something about your story doesnt add up sorry

Haskell · 12/09/2009 23:18

I was questioning you because I needed clarification- how could I be supportive if I do not understand the situation?

Has your son received any support/therapy/counselling for his abuse? Was any legal action taken? Does he still have contact with his abuser?

llareggub · 12/09/2009 23:28

Agree that this is a very odd thread. I think you need to find real life help rather than people on a talk board.

distraughtmum56 · 13/09/2009 00:40

My son hasnt been counselled as he refused to speak politely to the counsellor. He will get support next year hopefully in adult services. The "Working Together..." sounds like a Government thing written about how to remove children from their families. Why is he penalised for writing this in an essay.

I think he just wrote that WTSC 2006 leads to unfair miscarriage of justice in families and should therefore be altered/banned.

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