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Smartphones

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Sliverofdarkness · 02/08/2026 09:03

Smartphones - we've managed to get away without being pressured to buy our son, who is turning 13, a phone, until now. He is about to move to a large secondary school close to our home. Technically he doesn't need one to get to and from school as it is a very short walk away and they are not allowed them in school anyway.
I've heard plenty of awful stories about phones and what they can get up to with them, apart from the addictive nature of them. Should I get him a smartphone and try to lock it down completely, even though I've heard teenagers can get around Google family link. Or do I get a type of locked down smart phone. He is totally against having a brick Nokia type phone. Will he be socially isolated and find it hard to make friends if I don't get him a phone? Interested in others experiences with getting /not getting teenagers phones.

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Melarus · 03/08/2026 08:07

A 13-year-old would struggle socially without a phone, I think. My DCs are 14 and 16, and they communicate mainly in memes! A brick phone would be useless at this age.

You could install Family link, but Google makes it possible for 13+ users to switch it off themselves. You would get a notification if he did this.

The two most useful things you could do, I think, would be a) get him to agree to have family link installed and use it to set a phone bedtime, so it locks at night; and b) talk to him about the dangers of the unregulated internet, porn, the manosphere, violence, toxic chatrooms, gambling, scams etc.
Education is power.

durdledoris · 03/08/2026 08:10

I think a total ban with these things (phones/sweetsetc) makes them all the more attractive to teenagers. Get him one but rather than controlling it by proxy, physically take the phone off him at bedtime and times you don't want him to have it so he can't get addicted. Start as you mean to go on but also be mindful as he gets older you will have to adapt this agreement

Orangebadger · 09/08/2026 22:48

Biggest regret of mine was getting my DD a smart phone. I wish I hadn’t as they are so additive. She is fully blocked from all social media but has whatapp and you tube. There are ways around it and more and more kids are not getting smart phones until they are older now so it’s not as isolating as you think, and that why I caved! There are alternative dumb phones that are not like Nokia bricks.

sweetchill · 09/08/2026 22:52

I think it’s great youve avoided it so far! Is he asking for one? If he isn’t I wouldn’t bother.

strawberrykat · 09/08/2026 23:10

Have you seen the Smartphone free childhood campaign? It’s very popular around here and offers advice about alternative phones. My son is year 6 and all the local high schools have now completely banned smartphones for new students and most of the parents I know are looking at getting alternatives.

RedStripeLeaf · 10/08/2026 21:07

I have a smartphone-less teen son, who I think is now the only student in his school year who doesn't have a smartphone. Holding this line hasn't been without occasional challenges, but I think it's one of the best parenting decisions we've made for our son; it has given him so much time and space to grow into himself without the distraction of tween and early teen social media / whatsapp dramas. He is thriving socially, academically, and in his sporting activities.

I think, if you're going to try to keep your lad smartphone free a while longer, it's only fair, and only going to be successful if you both think and plan for how he will occupy himself in the evenings and are prepared to put some resources into this. If there are obvious benefits for him of being smartphone free (e.g. you spend the money you'd otherwise be spending on the phone on something else for him), you've more chance of him eventually embracing the decision.

My son has recently started to piece together the advantages he has by being free from the digital shackles of a smartphone, and I feel that we're now past the most difficult period of 'doing different'. It helps that the many adults in our son's life now treat him more as a peer than as a child; he gets plenty face-to-face interaction and validation with people who generally use their smartphones as tools and not as toys or emotional support devices. It also helped that my lad is sporty and popular, as this gave him more scope to do things differently from the crowd without suffering significant social consequences.

Ncforthis2267 · 10/08/2026 21:34

RedStripeLeaf · 10/08/2026 21:07

I have a smartphone-less teen son, who I think is now the only student in his school year who doesn't have a smartphone. Holding this line hasn't been without occasional challenges, but I think it's one of the best parenting decisions we've made for our son; it has given him so much time and space to grow into himself without the distraction of tween and early teen social media / whatsapp dramas. He is thriving socially, academically, and in his sporting activities.

I think, if you're going to try to keep your lad smartphone free a while longer, it's only fair, and only going to be successful if you both think and plan for how he will occupy himself in the evenings and are prepared to put some resources into this. If there are obvious benefits for him of being smartphone free (e.g. you spend the money you'd otherwise be spending on the phone on something else for him), you've more chance of him eventually embracing the decision.

My son has recently started to piece together the advantages he has by being free from the digital shackles of a smartphone, and I feel that we're now past the most difficult period of 'doing different'. It helps that the many adults in our son's life now treat him more as a peer than as a child; he gets plenty face-to-face interaction and validation with people who generally use their smartphones as tools and not as toys or emotional support devices. It also helped that my lad is sporty and popular, as this gave him more scope to do things differently from the crowd without suffering significant social consequences.

Yeah, he's totally got one he keeps at a friend's house 😂

lljkk · 10/08/2026 21:36

My son would rather have no phone than a naff phone.

canuckup · 11/08/2026 00:06

We live abroad, my 12, almost 13 son also starts high school this month.

I've said no to a smartphone for the time being. The school is in walking distance to our house, he can use the phone at the school or the library in case of dire emergency. He can arrange to meet his mates the way he usually does - either in class or via our laptop/iPad at home at weekends.

I've seen the effects of phones on teenagers and they are utterly addicted to them.

So it's a no from me for the time being.

As an aside, most of his friends do not have phones, but home access to a laptop etc.

MrsEdinburgh · 11/08/2026 00:18

Hmm tricky one.
On one hand it's a great idea to go smart phone free as long as possible.
But in reality it's not going to happen, as by Y10 most of the other kids will probably have one.
It's great that the school are going no smart phones/lock them away.

Maybe the answer is a smartphone locked down as much as possible and a a lesson or three on responsible use and the dangers.

RedStripeLeaf · 11/08/2026 07:49

Ncforthis2267 · 10/08/2026 21:34

Yeah, he's totally got one he keeps at a friend's house 😂

Oh, hello.

I'm pretty sure you don't know me or my son, yet you seem very confident in your assertion that he keeps a phone at a friend's house.

I can appreciate that some people could find it hard to accept that there are some teens who thrive in the absence of having a smartphone, particularly if a person has seen their child's free time get dominated by a phone. Perhaps you have a teen who doesn't want to do much offline. Perhaps you know lots of teens who don't want to do much offline. Perhaps you don't personally know of any teens who do want to spend free time offline. This is of course fine. However, it does not prevent teens without smartphones from existing.

Such teens may be rare, and they may well have had to cope with some kids at school making dumb comments about their lack of a smartphone. I know my son has. But he dealt with that bit of discomfort - it actually only lasted a few days before the dumbasses got bored and moved onto something and someone else. We'd had discussions previously about the likelihood of unkind comments being made, so he wasn't surprised or taken aback by it. We'd discussed whose opinions he wanted to value, and whose he didn't want to care for. We also had discussions about how that kind of dumbassery tends to play out. He rode it out, he learned something about the dynamics of teen society and his own resilience in the process, and in the grand scheme of things that teens deal with and challenges parents help them with, it wasn't as hard or as prolonged as I thought it might have been. He's fit and athletic and has good self-confidence, and that provides some degree of protection from unwanted attention. If he was small, more obviously nerdy, or had other aspects that would likely make him a target for the bully types at school, it would no doubt have been much harder.

@Sliverofdarkness If your son isn't going to have a smartphone just yet, he and you need to be prepared for him to suffer a social price at school for a period, and you need to weigh up whether or not your son is going to be able to ride that out. Most kids suffer socially at school for some period of time for some reason(s), be it for having the wrong colour bag, wearing a coat, kids discovering a nerdy interest...whatever. He'll likely be dealing with the impacts of unkind attention one way or another at some point.)

If you want your son to reap the potentially huge benefits of not having a smartphone, you have to be prepared to pay your part of the price, and it's not small:

  • Explain your reasons for considering not getting him a smartphone right now.
  • Be honest about the challenges he'd likely face as a result, and what he and you can do to overcome those.
  • Lay the groundwork for him to have a full offline life whilst he sees many of his peers getting sucked brain-first into their devices (I really can't emphasize this enough)
  • Pay for and get him to and from extra-curricular activities which he enjoys, and ideally with mixed age communities. (We've found that older teens who are the 'doing stuff' types tend to be strongly supportive of and impressed by a younger teen who doesn't have a smartphone, and there's nothing quite so validating for our son than people he looks up to telling him that it's great that he doesn't have a smartphone.)
  • Support his home-based hobbies and interests - show an interest, buy the stuff he needs to develop in those hobbies.
  • Create/maintain a home environment which he enjoys spending time in
  • Be available to talk through and deal with challenges.
It takes effort and resources to make a teen not having a smartphone a very positive thing. For the teen to ride out the difficult period in good shape, I think it also requires the teen to already have good levels of self-confidence, resilience, understanding of social dynamics, established hobbies and interests, intrinsic motivation, etc.
Orangebadger · 11/08/2026 08:06

regarding other kids at school I really think it depends on the school, area. Where i live there are actually plenty of kids without smart phone and no kids at school have said a thing. The thing that turns heads is not having a snap chat account which my DD does not have or any other social media, but she really could not care less.

Ncforthis2267 · 11/08/2026 15:55

RedStripeLeaf · 11/08/2026 07:49

Oh, hello.

I'm pretty sure you don't know me or my son, yet you seem very confident in your assertion that he keeps a phone at a friend's house.

I can appreciate that some people could find it hard to accept that there are some teens who thrive in the absence of having a smartphone, particularly if a person has seen their child's free time get dominated by a phone. Perhaps you have a teen who doesn't want to do much offline. Perhaps you know lots of teens who don't want to do much offline. Perhaps you don't personally know of any teens who do want to spend free time offline. This is of course fine. However, it does not prevent teens without smartphones from existing.

Such teens may be rare, and they may well have had to cope with some kids at school making dumb comments about their lack of a smartphone. I know my son has. But he dealt with that bit of discomfort - it actually only lasted a few days before the dumbasses got bored and moved onto something and someone else. We'd had discussions previously about the likelihood of unkind comments being made, so he wasn't surprised or taken aback by it. We'd discussed whose opinions he wanted to value, and whose he didn't want to care for. We also had discussions about how that kind of dumbassery tends to play out. He rode it out, he learned something about the dynamics of teen society and his own resilience in the process, and in the grand scheme of things that teens deal with and challenges parents help them with, it wasn't as hard or as prolonged as I thought it might have been. He's fit and athletic and has good self-confidence, and that provides some degree of protection from unwanted attention. If he was small, more obviously nerdy, or had other aspects that would likely make him a target for the bully types at school, it would no doubt have been much harder.

@Sliverofdarkness If your son isn't going to have a smartphone just yet, he and you need to be prepared for him to suffer a social price at school for a period, and you need to weigh up whether or not your son is going to be able to ride that out. Most kids suffer socially at school for some period of time for some reason(s), be it for having the wrong colour bag, wearing a coat, kids discovering a nerdy interest...whatever. He'll likely be dealing with the impacts of unkind attention one way or another at some point.)

If you want your son to reap the potentially huge benefits of not having a smartphone, you have to be prepared to pay your part of the price, and it's not small:

  • Explain your reasons for considering not getting him a smartphone right now.
  • Be honest about the challenges he'd likely face as a result, and what he and you can do to overcome those.
  • Lay the groundwork for him to have a full offline life whilst he sees many of his peers getting sucked brain-first into their devices (I really can't emphasize this enough)
  • Pay for and get him to and from extra-curricular activities which he enjoys, and ideally with mixed age communities. (We've found that older teens who are the 'doing stuff' types tend to be strongly supportive of and impressed by a younger teen who doesn't have a smartphone, and there's nothing quite so validating for our son than people he looks up to telling him that it's great that he doesn't have a smartphone.)
  • Support his home-based hobbies and interests - show an interest, buy the stuff he needs to develop in those hobbies.
  • Create/maintain a home environment which he enjoys spending time in
  • Be available to talk through and deal with challenges.
It takes effort and resources to make a teen not having a smartphone a very positive thing. For the teen to ride out the difficult period in good shape, I think it also requires the teen to already have good levels of self-confidence, resilience, understanding of social dynamics, established hobbies and interests, intrinsic motivation, etc.

Well thanks for that succinct reply chatgpt 😂

Methinks you doth protest too much!

tarheelbaby · 11/08/2026 16:04

If he's not begging you for a smartphone, I'd enjoy the savings.

Since his school has banned them, I'd offer him a 'brick' and if he declines, then that's his choice. After he's started, he may change his mind.

As PPs have mentioned there are lots of other ways teens and tweens access the internet so if he uses a pad/tablet or laptop, he may not be missing a smartphone.

JuliettaCaeser · 11/08/2026 16:09

He so does have a secret phone!

dozer222 · 11/08/2026 17:50

God it is so sad that people can’t possibly envisage a teen who doesn’t have a smartphone

JuliettaCaeser · 11/08/2026 19:06

It’s how they communicate with each other though. Maybe it’s different for boys but mid to late teen girls seem to be in frequent contact with their friends. Not having a phone surely you would be out of the loop. Can you not remember being a teen? I was always on the landline to my friends.

Orangebadger · 11/08/2026 19:23

dozer222 · 11/08/2026 17:50

God it is so sad that people can’t possibly envisage a teen who doesn’t have a smartphone

Isn’t it. Also bloody bizarre! I know loads of young teens without a smart phone and they certainly don’t have a secret one. Likely depends on demographic. But relatively normal here!

RedStripeLeaf · 11/08/2026 19:38

@Ncforthis2267 If 336 words plus a short greeting addressed to you was overly long for you to engage with, a shorter version is:

  • Greetings
  • I likely have a better idea of where my child is at any particular time than you have.
  • Some people assume everyone's life is like theirs, however this is a fallacy*.
  • I did parenting, my kid got the anticipated unkindness at school, I did some more parenting. It was easier than we had anticipated. There are some factors that make things some easier for my son than they might be for some other people.

*Incidentally, some people don't default to using generative AI to knock out a few paragraphs of text.

Ncforthis2267 · 12/08/2026 09:34

RedStripeLeaf · 11/08/2026 19:38

@Ncforthis2267 If 336 words plus a short greeting addressed to you was overly long for you to engage with, a shorter version is:

  • Greetings
  • I likely have a better idea of where my child is at any particular time than you have.
  • Some people assume everyone's life is like theirs, however this is a fallacy*.
  • I did parenting, my kid got the anticipated unkindness at school, I did some more parenting. It was easier than we had anticipated. There are some factors that make things some easier for my son than they might be for some other people.

*Incidentally, some people don't default to using generative AI to knock out a few paragraphs of text.

Lol. Ok Claude.

dozer222 · 12/08/2026 13:28

JuliettaCaeser · 11/08/2026 19:06

It’s how they communicate with each other though. Maybe it’s different for boys but mid to late teen girls seem to be in frequent contact with their friends. Not having a phone surely you would be out of the loop. Can you not remember being a teen? I was always on the landline to my friends.

Really not necessary to have your own smartphone to keep in contact with friends, surely. Comparing it to a landline in the 90s is also ridiculous.

Melarus · 12/08/2026 13:46

Really not necessary to have your own smartphone to keep in contact with friends, surely.

Errr ... Do you have a teenager?!

SomeMoreSummer · 12/08/2026 14:09

I’m also baffled that some people consider it unthinkable that a teen could function without a phone. My DD is 12 and is one of a number of kids in her year with dumb phone only. It’s occasionally inconvenient when she needs ticket proof or has to pivot on public transport. It’s otherwise fine. She texts friends and makes plans but is not locked into a screen all day long. As a result she still reads and crafts and rollerblades and goes to the park and just generally lives her life without exposure to toxic group chats or SM. Dumb phones only is a growing trend in our area of London.

JuliettaCaeser · 12/08/2026 17:38

12 I agree. A 14 plus averagely sociable girl I would question how she would manage without a phone.

dozer222 · 12/08/2026 19:16

I do think this is only because of how things have spiralled over recent years, and that things are changing now we know how bad it is for, well, everyone… but especially children/teens. Where I am it’s a mixture of those that have just submitted to smartphones and something a bit more like what @SomeMoreSummerdescribes. Thinking that teens communicating mainly via memes is ok is just sad, and explains a lot… There are ways to communicate both on and off line without having it all in your pocket 24/7.