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Worried about my bereaved teenager's intense friendship with a troubling girl

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OrangeForAHead · 21/04/2026 13:12

I’m looking for advice on a friendship situation that has turned out to be deeply worrying fairly quickly. For background information dd is an only child and her dad (my DH) killed himself last summer.

Dd started secondary this year. About half the kids are from her old (huge) primary school and the other half are from different schools.
Initially dd hung round with her old friends - then started widening the circle with children from other schools before starting a really intense friendship with a girl who she was at Primary school with although in a different class.
Dd has always been popular enough. Shes had the usual friendships issues, but she always had friends and she tends to have a fairly diverse collection of people she’s friendly with. I’d say she’s always been fairly desperate for a best friend and the ones she’s had previously probably lacked that intense closeness she craved.
Anyway - she’s currently got that with this girl. I’ll call her Sara. Sara is very grown up, clever and fun. On this level I can see why Dd is attracted to her. She is also VERY into boys (and has only really had male friendships before from what I can tell), talks about sex a lot, doesn’t care much about school and claims a lot of drama in her life that doesn’t really add up. Shes got a boyfriend who sounds fairly misogynistic and talks horribly about some of the other girls in the year. I’ll admit I was worried about the friendship almost immediately. I don’t think Sara is very nice deep down. I think she is manipulative and two faced. Dd lost her father to suicide less that a year ago and understandably life is tricky for her and she is vulnerable. I know I can’t ban particular friendships, but I’ve been so anxious especially as this friendship has provided dd with an intense emotional bond that she obviously craves. I can see it’s not healthy (at best I think it codependent) but to DD it obviously feels like she’s getting everything she needs. I’ve had a few other parents confirm my misgivings about Sara too.

Last year at primary there was a very nasty ongoing bullying situation with one of the boys (not in dds class). Lots of incredibly unpleasant anonymous online attacks. The content was totally shocking and above and beyond usual year 6 nastiness. It never fully got resolved or proved who it was. I think there were rumours it was one of two boys who were responsible. About a week ago I had a horrible feeling it might have been Sara’s boyfriend (not one of the rumoured 2) and I mentioned this to Dd in conversation. Dd went pale and agreed this could be likely. We spoke about how it was probably best for dd to be wary of this boy - this being one of several reasons why.

Anyway yesterday dd was talking to Sara and asked her if she thought her BF might have been responsible. To DDs horror, Sara admitted that she knew it wasn’t her boyfriend - because it was her! Dd was absolutely horrified. Sara said she felt awful about it but also tried to justify her actions. I know dd told her how disgusting it was. I don’t think they argued. They just talked about it.

Dd told me pretty much straight away. And now she doesn’t what to do. She wants to tell the boys mum, but is also scared. She both wishes that she didn’t know, as well as wishing she had found out before she became friends with Sara. She says she would have wanted nothing to do with her but feels it isn’t that simple now. She feels responsibility towards Saras wellbeing as she has (rightly or wrongly) fallen hook line and sinker for Sara’s stories up till now. We spoke about how dd needs to protect herself.

She went off to school this morning and we didn’t talk about it before she left. As far as I know she don’t have a plan for what she was going to say to Sara. I’m at a loss for what to do. I feel so sad for dd that this friend that she was so close to has turned out to be as I feared, but I’m also worried that dd is emotionally too needy to dis-attach herself from her easily. I am fearful that any friendship with this girl is going to be unhealthy for dd one way or another - and that’s the last thing she needs whilst also dealing with her own bereavement.

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cestlavielife · 21/04/2026 13:14

Has your dd had bereavement counselling?
She needs a safe space and counselling

cestlavielife · 21/04/2026 13:15

Is there a school counsellor?
You can reach out to school

OrangeForAHead · 21/04/2026 13:17

I’ve been trying to sort out counselling. It’s not as easy as I thought it would be but she’s on a few waiting lists - including the schools own one.

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SpringCalling · 21/04/2026 13:20

My first thought is that you have done some amazing parenting here. Your DD is talking to you and largely listening to your very wise advise. You have already largely given her the tools to navigate this difficult situation. She now knows what Sara is like and can gradually back off if she feels that is the right thing to do. Friendships still change a lot at this stage. I do echo that it would be good if she is having counselling - just so she has another safe space to talk about and work things it.

AnotherOneDown · 21/04/2026 13:23

Agree with @SpringCalling. Re counselling: have you approached Winston's Wish?

Epicuriouss · 21/04/2026 13:31

SpringCalling · 21/04/2026 13:20

My first thought is that you have done some amazing parenting here. Your DD is talking to you and largely listening to your very wise advise. You have already largely given her the tools to navigate this difficult situation. She now knows what Sara is like and can gradually back off if she feels that is the right thing to do. Friendships still change a lot at this stage. I do echo that it would be good if she is having counselling - just so she has another safe space to talk about and work things it.

This.

We had a very similar situation with my DD who is autistic and a bit vulnerable to New Cool People.

I kept communication open and the girl revealed enough of herself over time that DD eventually ditched her.

You are doing just fine 🖤

OrangeForAHead · 21/04/2026 13:33

Thank you both. That means a lot. We are generally really close and im so pleased she spoke to me about it.

I wish it was as simple as being able to end the friendship straight away but i agree it’s probably a case of supporting her to pull away gradually.

Winstons Wish sent me lots of information, but when I last spoke to them DD didn’t meet their threshold for counselling (they said there have to additional concerns other than just bereavement). Maybe she does now though. I will call again.
I think they have online support lines though. I’d forgotten about that. Dd might be interested in them.

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cestlavielife · 21/04/2026 13:37

Go back to winstons wish state concerns over friendships etc
Berravement shld be enough ... tryvia gp too

OrangeForAHead · 21/04/2026 13:45

Thanks. Yes I’ll do that after work and I’ll call theGP again in the morning. I’ve already re emailed the counsellors who had told me they might have space soon and also asked for more recommendations.

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ThejoyofNC · 21/04/2026 13:48

You absolutely can and should prevent her having any further relationship with this girl. She might see her at school but I would disallow anything outside of that. It's your job to protect her and she's already vulnerable so I would do everything within my power to keep her away from Sarah.

OrangeForAHead · 21/04/2026 14:02

I agree that this would be ideal - and I absolutely won’t be facilitating contact with them outside school.
Parenting a child bereaved by suicide is complex though and I’m so scared of doing anything that will damage our relationship and shut down communication between me and dd. Maybe this is something I’m wrong about - but for now I feel the need to tread carefully.

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OrangeForAHead · 21/04/2026 14:06

I just don’t know though. I’m sat in the loos at work in tears and my life is unrecognisable from what it was this time last year and I’m just doing everything I can to keep myself from falling apart so I’m available for dd.

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ThejoyofNC · 21/04/2026 14:10

It must be so hard OP and you have my sympathies. The good thing is that your daughter is open with you and discusses these things. Try and have a chat with her about what sort of things would help her either practically or emotionally to end the friendship with this girl.

lovecheesymash · 21/04/2026 14:57

Of course cutting off all contact with Sara would be ideal; it could also backfire on your daughter. It seems that Sara , as you say is manipulative, could resort to vindictive tactics against your daughter; online bullying or spreading malicious rumours about her. I think a gradual withdrawal would be the best outcome.

OrangeForAHead · 21/04/2026 15:39

Im actually worried she’d use AI to create revenge porn or something. Or that she’ll manage to start turning Dd against me.

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Tiillytubby · 21/04/2026 15:57

I think you’ve done all you can by encouraging your DD to reflect on Sara’s actions to reach her independent conclusion. You’re fortunate she is open and sharing info, and i’d take that as a big parenting win. This last yr must have been so hard on you both, i’d just keep very very vigilant. Hopefully you can check her phone? Discourage the friendship subtly but don’t voice overarching disapproval as this can backfire!

OrangeForAHead · 21/04/2026 19:03

Thanks. It’s been an absolute awful year and I think we are both still largely in shock.

I think this will be my approach. She’s more closed off talking about it today so I won’t push it. I know dd is desperate for something stable and good in her life and although Sara isn’t it, I can totally understand why dd wants to act like she is.
And although I think the relationship is ultimately unhealthy it’s not causing her immediate danger. I will be vigilant and keep an eye on messages when I can.

I’ll make phone calls to Winston’s wish and GP again tomorrow morning. Missed my chance today.

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ElFire · 21/04/2026 19:16

I just want to say what an amazing mum you are and that I am so sorry for your loss. I am so sorry that Winston’s Wish haven’t had the funding to help your child as a top priority - because she absolutely should be.
I have a similar situation with my dd who is older than yours . She is currently staying with a relative elsewhere in the UK to bring some physical distance between her and her worrying friend . This was a last resort which may not be possible for you. But I just wanted to send you my absolute best, as another single parent who has had to keep going through my own loss. I see your struggle and send you solidarity.

Seawolves · 21/04/2026 19:24

Have you had some support for you too? You are doing amazing things for your daughter and you deserve some care and somewhere to offload too. Have you tried your local hospices for counselling? Ours offers bereavement support to families who didn't use the hospice as well as to those who did.

OrangeForAHead · 21/04/2026 19:36

Thank you @ElFire . I'm so sorry you're going through something similar and I hope you are ok. My main instinct is to pack dd up and remove her far away from all this. It's not possible (or even necessary) at the moment but I am formulating a few 'escape routes' to give me options should things get to that point - I was doing that before this recent revelation if I'm honest. I hope it works out for your Dd.

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Dilbertian · 21/04/2026 19:37

Oh my goodness, this is so tough for you and your daughter. I hope it doesn’t offend if this stranger sends you a (((hug))).

Does your dd’s school know about her bereavement and about her emotional situation? Find out who the Head of Pastoral Care is and get in touch with them. There may be a school counsellor or other student wellbeing support that dd could access. There are sometimes services outside school that school can refer children to for counselling, though in my area these are only for up to 6w.

OrangeForAHead · 21/04/2026 19:44

@Seawolves that's a really good suggestion. I hadn't thought of hospices at all. Thank you so much.
I do have a counsellor myself. It was much much easier to sort out and I had a charity offer and start sessions within a fortnight of me contacting them. It's been 4 months of searching and waiting lists for DD already.

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OrangeForAHead · 21/04/2026 20:04

Thanks @Dilbertian. Not offended at all. Thank you.
Her school know what she's been through - and they have been good - but I last spoke to them just before the friendship was becoming prominent so they won't be aware of the current developments. I need to talk to them again - although I'm not sure how much to share about what Sara has confessed to.Dd is really good at school, she works hard, she's in top sets and is very well behaved so I think although they're aware she is vulnerable she's also not standing out as being hugely needy. They do have a visiting counsellor though and Dd is as far as I know top of their list for the next spot.

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OrangeForAHead · Yesterday 18:35

So by chance DDs school rang me today to say that she has a place with their counsellor starting next week :-) So pleased about this.
It also gave me the opportunity to voice my concerns about Sara to them. It felt like a small step in the right direction.

Day to day Im generally managing to keep it together, but I really can’t cope when something goes wrong for dd which is when.the whole of the last year just comes crashing in around me. Not great as these are the times I probably need to be the strongest.

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