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School Year Group Exclusion - 17y DD

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Mumunder · 09/01/2026 13:14

My 17y dd is having a horrible time at school at the moment and I'm at the stage where I just don't know how to handle this and am watching her more and more upset every day.
As background, she moved schools last September to a grades focused school. She's a very bright girl and wants to excel in her exams so we made the decision and the financial sacrifice to enrol her in a high-achieving grades school. She's always had a small friend group, never one of the popular cool girls, but in general a happy teenager.
The first 2 weeks were transformational for her - she met lots of new friends, specifically 2 girls who she lunched with everyday and built up a large friend group. Parties followed, life was exciting and she was loving it.
Fast forward to a Halloween party in Oct when a guy that she was casually dating for about 6 months decided to snog one of her two friends. Words were exchanged between her and the guy, and for reasons that I still don't understand , she slapped him. Her so called friend scuttled away and the night ended.
On returning to school, relations were cool with her pal but they spoke about what had happened and she told her that her anger was directed at the boy and not the girl. Everything seemed ok, still a bit tense, but on the mend she hoped.
Over the next few weeks, things started to change, she found herself on the outside of groups, would go into a class and her seat was taken or her bag was moved. People started to actively avoid her and in particular the 2 girls who were supposed to be her friends. This behaviour continued for a week or so and she was devastated - despite trying to ask the girls what was wrong, they told her that nobody wanted to be her friend and that everyone knows that she spends her time "talking shit about people".
After chatting to her about it, I suggested to her that she approach the year head and discuss it. She called me that afternoon, after speaking to the year head and principal who listened to her and told her that they would keep an eye on what was going on. Unfortiunately, during the time of the meeting, she was spotted in the office by one of her 2 so called friends.
For some reason the principal decided to call in one of the girls and raise the points that my DD had mentioned. What followed was a litany of lies from this girl, everything from how my daughter was telling classmates about her poor grades, dismissing her appearance etc. None of this was true however, she was listened to and the year head suggested that the girls park the issue and move on. They advised them not to discuss what had happened with the wider year group.
My dd composed herself and went back to class, however the second girl, arrived back into the classroom, wailing, sobbing and causing a scene. From the outside my DD is now public enemy number one as she's sitting there emotionless. Since that day, everything shifted, uninvited from parties, ignored, sitting on her own in classes, a social pariah.
She's tried to make conversations with others however it seems that the 2 original girls manage to scupper any potentional new friendships by intercepting every new contact she makes - she's paranoid that they're telling people lies about her - but of course we have no proof.
We're now at a stage where I have to drop her to school about a minute before the bell time, i meet her for lunch and i collect her straight after school. On the days that I can't make it for lunch, she has her lunch in a toilet cubicle or on her own on one of the back stairs in the school.
I can't flag this again with the school because I have zero evidence of what we believe to be a campaign by these original 2 girls to exclude her yet this cannot continue. I fear for my beautiful bright and previously confident daughter who is struggling so badly and my heart is broken at how she is being treated.

Sorry for the long post - it's been therapy in itself to get these words written down

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Ivemessedup9872 · 09/01/2026 13:25

Are you in the uk? This is not going to improve and you are only at college in the uk for 2 years. Does she finish this summer? Does she think she can cope for another 6 months? If not get her moved asap

Mumunder · 09/01/2026 13:31

Ivemessedup9872 · 09/01/2026 13:25

Are you in the uk? This is not going to improve and you are only at college in the uk for 2 years. Does she finish this summer? Does she think she can cope for another 6 months? If not get her moved asap

Yes, we are in the UK. This is a 2 year A level course that she's enrolled in - and we're only 5 months in ...
I hate the thought of her moving but each day I fear it might be the only option here. It's the unfairness of it that I find so unsettling. Teenage girls can really be horrors.

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Octavia64 · 09/01/2026 13:34

It seems fairly clear that this is a falling out over the boy.

slapping him unfortunately will have been seen as extremely problematic.

my dc’s friendship group in sixth form splintered over a similar issue - one boy went out on a date with a girl while supposedly being exclusive with another.

to be honest at this age and over this sort of friendship issue there is not a lot the teachers can do. They cannot force students to be friends with people and students at this age often have very strong opinions on right and wrong and are very happy to express them.

I’d consider moving her.

Falalalalaaaalalalalaaaa · 09/01/2026 13:37

This is a horrible situation, I don’t really have much advice except - keep head down, ignore, wait for a different drama to arise.

TheaBrandt1 · 09/01/2026 13:39

God poor you. Sounds as if she’s generally good socially but has had some bad luck. I would consider either moving schools if that’s possible prob not with a level or have a year out and start again. At this age a year or so age difference isn’t significant as it was when they were younger. There’s not much the school can do as it’s subtle and they are nearly adults.

Mumunder · 09/01/2026 13:41

Falalalalaaaalalalalaaaa · 09/01/2026 13:37

This is a horrible situation, I don’t really have much advice except - keep head down, ignore, wait for a different drama to arise.

That's exactly what I was hoping for - I was certain that some drama would have happened over Xmas and NY but it looks like all has been quiet.

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Mumunder · 09/01/2026 13:43

Octavia64 · 09/01/2026 13:34

It seems fairly clear that this is a falling out over the boy.

slapping him unfortunately will have been seen as extremely problematic.

my dc’s friendship group in sixth form splintered over a similar issue - one boy went out on a date with a girl while supposedly being exclusive with another.

to be honest at this age and over this sort of friendship issue there is not a lot the teachers can do. They cannot force students to be friends with people and students at this age often have very strong opinions on right and wrong and are very happy to express them.

I’d consider moving her.

Agreed - I'm so disappointed in her because of that slap. It was her own actions that caused this but the fallout is simply disastrous

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EffinMagicFairy · 09/01/2026 13:43

My DD was bullied, broke my heart that she also hid out in toilet cubicles, we moved her, keeping mental health intact means more than grades. DS dropped out after his first year of A-levels, didn’t pick the right ones, he restarted the following year on a different set at college on another 2 year course. Might be worth letting her drop and restarting somewhere else next year, let her work, or maybe she could go volunteering abroad (funds allowing). My DD remains pretty much unscathed by her experience, I’m sure that’s because we supported her and removed her from the toxic environment very quickly once we realised the extent of bullying issues.

sprigatito · 09/01/2026 13:44

It may be that she has permanently blotted her copybook by slapping someone. It was a terrible thing to do (and a criminal offence!) so I can imagine a group of teenage girls taking the moral high ground and ostracising her - and these things do often spiral with teenagers.

I would move her again. I know it’ll be a massive upheaval, but I don’t think this situation is retrievable.

Squiggles23 · 09/01/2026 13:54

OP I think if she is to stay DD probably needs to try and make some amends with the girls. I think they will see her as causing drama (the slap) and having involved teachers at that age won't go down well.

Her best bet would be to try and apologise for her part - even if they've also wronged her (in the first place or subsequently). Being emotionless won't help she likely does need them to know that she's a bit upset.

Then she will just need to give them a wide birth and hope they move on.

Is there any scope to switch any classes to a different set so she isn't with them?

FrippEnos · 09/01/2026 13:55

Your DD has come up against three things
Teen drama.
Pre existing friendship and social groups.
And slapping someone from that group.

There is also the possibility that the boy and girl have been on/off or close to a relationship for years.

None of this makes what your DD is going through easy and unfortunately the easy (not best) way out of for her to go and study somewhere else.

Mumunder · 09/01/2026 14:06

Squiggles23 · 09/01/2026 13:54

OP I think if she is to stay DD probably needs to try and make some amends with the girls. I think they will see her as causing drama (the slap) and having involved teachers at that age won't go down well.

Her best bet would be to try and apologise for her part - even if they've also wronged her (in the first place or subsequently). Being emotionless won't help she likely does need them to know that she's a bit upset.

Then she will just need to give them a wide birth and hope they move on.

Is there any scope to switch any classes to a different set so she isn't with them?

I agree, involving the teachers ended up being disastrous. She wonders now all the time if she should have said nothing but there's only so many times she could have walked into a classroom and found her things moved, or everyone after moving to seats miles away from her. Some of the teachers had noticed this.
She felt that by raising this behaviour with the year head this would have been nipped in the bud but now it looks as though this initial exclusion behaviour has been ignored and the issue at hand is that she slapped someone (on a side note, this boy isn't even in the school, he's from the next county over).
I agree that she was wrong to do what she did - oh to turn back time !! - but the behaviour from everyone is so upsetting

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