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Going to live with their dad?

11 replies

Foxglove10 · 02/07/2025 23:14

Hi

I’m not even sure how to begin this, but I’m hoping someone here has been through something similar. I’m looking for advice, support, or even just space to feel what I’m feeling.

I’m an autistic and physically disabled mum to two girls (13 and 11). My partner of 10 years was recently diagnosed as autistic too, and communication can be hard in our home. For all of us.

One of the biggest ways I struggle is with tone of voice and social nuance. I often sound “in a mood” even when I’m not, and I’ve only recently realised how that might seem for my daughters. I sometimes ask questions that sound like accusations - not because I’m angry, but because I struggle to phrase things the “right” way out loud. If it were written down, there’d be a question mark - but when I say it, it can come across as an accusation.

This week, my daughters told me (completely out of the blue) that they’d written letters saying they want to live with their dad full-time and only see me at the weekend, because I’m “always in a mood” and accuse them of things. I was blindsided. I had no idea this was how they’d been feeling.

I feel absolutely crushed. I love my girls so deeply. I’m not perfect, but I’ve tried so hard to build a safe, loving home for them, especially because I grew up without a mum myself. I’ve given them everything I wished I’d had.

I've been sensing something has been off for a while - they've been quiet and looked unhappy to other people too. So much so that we have been on a waiting list for "family cohesion" sessions with my domestic abuse support worker. Their dad has been cruel to me ever since I was pregnant. We have been to court previously because every few years when something isn't going right with his job, finances or relationship he starts causing chaos for me. Most recently it was getting the girls to put Bluetooth trackers in my partners bag before we went to my sisters wedding, so that he knew where we were and called 999 saying I was holding them hostage. Thankfully he got the wrong weekend and we had only been at her house out of town.

Worse still, their dad has now made a C100 application, claiming I’m holding them here against their will and he wants to limit contact to every other weekend. I only found out about the urgent hearing (which happened this Monday) on the Friday before. The judge was not impressed with his manipulation of the system, and ordered mediation, though I know from previous MIAMs that it’s likely not suitable. I get legal aid due to previous domestic abuse and post-separation abuse. The last prohibited steps order ran until my youngest started school as handovers were meant to be done at school. I am applying for another one on the back of this- due to the tracker incident and him being caught on camera outside discussing court proceedings with my neighbour - and have been told it will probably be successful, but that cafcass will most likely be doing a section 7/wishes and feelings.

Their dad has a long history of involving the girls in adult matters. I’ve always tried to protect them from that. So they get a one sided view where I'm the villain. They have always seen through his lies, but now he's twisted it so it's more about the arrangements not working. They’re repeating his words and telling me how unhappy they are going back and forth. When I asked what had led to them no longer wishing to sodnd as much time with me, they at first said "50/50 isn't working" and "it's ok"... "we'll just see you at weekends". I’ve since gently told them how hurt I am, and that what they’re asking for is a big decision. That's when they said it was about my "mood swings" and their dad says I'm "crazy". I wouldn't mind - last time he took me to court he demanded a mental health report which came back fine. Yet on his new application he has called me paranoid and delusional. It doesn't bother me when he says it - the fact my (usually) kindhearted and loving children are saying it has broken my heart.

They’ve also said they want to live at his during the week, and come here on weekends - because we “do more on weekends.” My partner and my sister are both appalled, seeing it as them treating my home like a holiday camp, where they appreciate none of the unseen parenting I do in the week, and they want all the fun - but I can also see how from a child’s point of view, how that might make sense.

Right now I do everything for them, including running around to make co-parenting easier despite being a wheelchair user with no transport. I’ve never asked their dad for money. He’s paid £10 in dinner money in their whole school lives, and that was right before he filed the court application. He’s on benefits for both girls, which I’ve never disputed because I didn’t need the money and didn’t want more conflict. He doesn’t buy clothes, toiletries, or school supplies. The girls often come here for clean uniforms, snacks, deodorant - the basics he should have at home.

Now people are telling me:
... Stop paying for their phones. Stop giving them spending money. Stop buying clothes, hair highlights, badminton courts, swimming, skating, archery. Every school trip and activity. Stop making costumes last minute. Stop going to every play, meeting, event. Let their dad handle it. Take back the bigger bedroom. Show them what choosing to live there will really mean - see if they want him to do the majority of parenting. Parenting for him at the moment is stopping them from bickering between rounds of games on his PC, while his girlfriend does all the cooking and running them to school.

But I’m terrified. Won’t that just push them further away? Won’t they feel like I’m punishing them for being honest? I feel like this is a trap - if I continue doing everything, I feel used and invisible. If I stop, I feel like the “bad guy” confirming what their dad says about me.

I genuinely don’t know how to function right now.
I’m so sad.
I feel unwanted in my own children’s lives.
I feel like I’ve lost the chance to be the kind of mum I never had.
And I’m afraid this will damage our bond forever.

I’ve never been away from them for more than a few days in their entire lives, and the idea of seeing them just 4 days a month is making me feel like I don’t want to wake up tomorrow.

Has anyone else been through something like this?
How do you survive it?
Does the relationship ever heal?

Thank you if you’ve read this far.

OP posts:
GreenGully · 03/07/2025 10:42

My advice is to go along with their wishes and be supportive of their decision, even though it is upsetting for you. If you try to fight this you will alienate yourself further and irrevocably damage the relationships you have.

wizzywig · 03/07/2025 14:09

Don't punish your kids for this decision. If their dad is having them more of the time, then yeah pay a pro rata amount, but doing a dramatic 'I'm going to cut you off' also means that they will struggle to contact you. And does showing up their dad make you feel better? It shouldn't.

DNLove · 03/07/2025 14:17

You tell them that you are heartbroken at their decision and would have loved some time to work on the things that are upsetting them. However you will respect their decision for them to live with their dad. That their decision does not change your love for them, you'll always want them with you so the door is always open to revert to the current situation. Suggest a 4 week trial and you can have a check in and see if they want to do it long term.
By the sounds of it is give it a month and they'll be back. You want them to feel like they can return to you without hearing I told you so or anything similar.

Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 03/07/2025 14:21

One of my teen ds's chose living at df's.. Free access to tech /alcohol /drugs.
At 14..
I left them to it.
A year later ds came home.
Respect their choice op. It won't last.

WhatsThatComing · 03/07/2025 14:24

Every one of my friends who isn’t with the father of their dc has gone to live with their dad in their teens. Every single one. It’s a ‘grass is greener’ thing.

SeaGreenSeaGlass · 03/07/2025 14:42

Autistic parent of autistic teen here. I'm very sorry to hear about this situation and particularly about the domestic abuse that you've lived through.

I very much doubt that your tone of voice is an issue. The girls are being teenagers and rewriting the situation to suit themselves. Teen years ago they'd have tried a simple "it's not fair" but they're older now and feeling aggrieved, as teenagers tend to do. So they attack their safe person.

Even if your tone of voice was an issue, they're showing their immaturity by how they are handling it. And that's fine, they're young, and we need to be the grown ups.

I would try to reframe your idea that stopping doing so much for them would be punishing them. Our job as parents is to help them become independent beings. Allowing them to try spending time elsewhere may help them grow up. They may be less mature than their years suggest. That's fine. But what you're all doing just now isn't working so something needs to change.

Let them have a set period to stay with their dad over the summer break- not just a few days, but enough time that he has to start actually parenting them. I'd suggest a fortnight as a start. It could be a good thing for all of you. Take a break. Let things go wrong. They're old enough to advocate for themselves and to learn to do things for themselves. They don't need you to be the middleman, telling their dad what to buy/cook etc. Let them all falter and work things through. Then you can decide a longer term plan, but if they do start with him midweek, they do all the life amin and planning etc between themselves. You're not a servant, hidden away out of sight.

Have a break yourself.

Mix56 · 03/07/2025 14:55

I think you need to let them have a trial.
then stop all the things you do & pay for them.
Their father has never paid, let him pay.
Make their w/es fun & comfortable, without buying their clothes & stuff.
Say “Daddy says he is taking over so he will take care of it”
My guess it will last for a few weeks. Plus their father’s gf may get fed up being the slave !

SammyScrounge · 03/07/2025 15:31

Tell them they can always come back home then let them go. He won't do all the things that you do for them. He will dump everything on his gf who will become resentful. It won't be long before your girls want back home when the reality of life with Dad hits home.

Foxglove10 · 05/07/2025 15:09

Thank you so much for all your replies. Reading them really helped me feel better about something I was worrying over - that I was being a “bad mum” by letting my kids choose what they want. It honestly felt like I was giving up on being a parent.

They were quiet for a few days, but then on Thursday night during our usual family board games night, they said they still want to keep doing that. I suggested we could move game night to the weekend instead.

Then, out of nowhere, my 11-year-old said the real problem isn’t them coming here, but their dad coming here - because it makes him unhappy. She said he won’t let them choose to stay at his for two nights, but I do let them choose, and she thinks that helps avoid arguments. Apparently, he complains all the way here during drop-offs.

He recently moved out of the area and agreed to handle drop-offs, which isn’t something I control. So, I suggested a new plan: instead of him coming here, the kids would stay at mine from Friday after school until Monday morning - three nights with me, four nights with their dad.

They got really enthusiastic about this because it means they can take their phones to school, and they won’t have to worry about sorting clothes to take back and forth.

I now agree this isn't about me. I think it’s about the issues their dad is causing and the kids not knowing how to handle it, so they’ve sort of thrown the more passive parent (me) under the bus, if that makes sense.

I asked if they want to start the new plan right away, and they said no - they want to wait until their dad takes me to court. Which is an unusual response I think. I said that's between me and your dad so I won't be talking with you about that, unless you have any questions or thoughts. They were both fine with that.

I think 3 days a week over the weekend is more time than I actually spend with them now, taking into account school. So it doesn't feel like the end of the world. Also it's made me realise I need a life outside of my family so I'm trying to be more sociable. Thanks again.

OP posts:
ItsKaos · 05/07/2025 17:45

Glad you're feeling better @Foxglove10 . Something similar happened to me last year (think EOW Disney dad returning to live locally after a 12 year absence and two of the three DCs choosing to live with him). Yep, it's a kick in the teeth. But I know they love me and I've done my best for them. Whereas he always prioritised the OW over his children. He's now trying to exclude me as much as he can from their lives but I'm fighting back the best I can.

Your ex is manipulating your children - like my ex. It's infuriating but I try not to show it.

Stay strong @💐

Mix56 · 10/07/2025 16:26

Well done OP !
Their father will have all the down side, homework, fighting them to go to bed, sport clubs?
they will probably soon be back wanting to spend more time with you, because he won't like being parent !

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