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How to help ND DS13 re: getting into trouble at school

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ballroompink · 29/04/2025 19:25

DS is just turning 13, has ADHD and was also assessed as 'having autistic traits but not enough to diagnose'.

Ever since he was little he has struggled with owning up/accepting blame/apologising. It was raised with us by his teacher when he was 6 that he showed no qualms about trying to lie his way out of trouble even of it was obvious that he had done something. At home we have also observed this - it's always "I didn't do anything!' when challenged. Pressing the point used to often lead to him having meltdowns but this doesn't really happen now he is older.

The issue is low level disruptive stuff at school. His teachers have flagged with us that when things happen, he refuses to accept responsibility and will deny any wrongdoing/see no need to be remorseful or apologise. It's not a constant thing - there have been three incidents this school year which have been brought to our attention. But his head of year has now flagged it with us as something they want us to work on together as expectations become higher from Y9 onwards.

Has anyone successfully addressed this and improved the issue with a neurodivergent child? We tend to find it takes a lot of explaining as to why DS's behaviour was out of line, why people saw it the way they did and what would actually be the expectation in such a situation before he will slowly begin to consider that he could have behaved differently. I worry that this is the sort of thing that could have huge negative implications as he gets older.

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Slurple · 30/04/2025 00:12

This is a hard one. I have a DS of a similar age with a similar issue. Our general approach is that if he's done something wrong he is responsible, regardless of how he feels about it or whether he agrees (obviously barring cases of major injustice!). Authority is just something he has to accept because he'll always live under it as every adult does - as a child it's your parents and teachers, as an adult it's your boss and the government. So although we take time to explain things to him, we generally take the line that his agreement isn't a pre-requisite for him to take responsibility.
And the other thing is radical responsibility -taking. DS is an incredible problem -solver when there's something he wants to see happen - he'll give me 5 different scenarios or ways of doing something that he wants to achieve. But he evades responsibility like a pro if he wants to. And our expectation is that he applies his problem -solving skills to all areas, not just those he wants to succeed in. So let's say he didn't do his homework and he's outraged he's got a detention because the reason he didn't do his homework is because he lost his pencil-case and therefore couldn't do it. Well the answer is that it's his responsibility to solve that problem - and at this point I would have him list on paper three ways he could have addressed that problem in order to get his homework done (his responsibility). I find writing things down much better for addressing things like this than talking - I get so easily drawn into distracting and irrelevant arguments and it stops DS being able to ignore and evade the questions!

GildedRage · 30/04/2025 01:11

is he medicated? and what has his psychiatrist said/suggested regarding this issue?
i think having professional help at this point would be best. i'm thinking regular visits and discussions with the mh team.

waterrat · 01/05/2025 14:54

Hi op. I have an autistic child but it is actually my NT 13 Yr old who is like this !

I think there is also a lack of emotional intelligence in boys as teens! My son just cannot understand others pov and just can't take responsibility when he gets in trouble

I think some teen boys just haven't matured yet and you have to keep telling social stories and talking it through

BunnyRuddington · 03/05/2025 08:10

Is he currently taking any medication to help him with his ADHD?

You’ve had some great advice on here already but I’d ask @MNHQto love your thread over to the SN Teens section where you’ll probably find some more MNers experiencing similar Flowers

Ddakji · 03/05/2025 08:12

I think @Slurple has it right - he IS responsible, like or not. He doesn’t need to agree.

myangrychild · 03/05/2025 08:12

I’m glad I’ve read this as though I’m not even at primary school yet you’re describing my four year old to a point.

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