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Issues with boy in friend group

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Dave57 · 05/04/2025 09:24

Long time lurker, occasional poster, name changed for this one but not sure if that will work has never done it before. Sorry its a long one and Im just looking for some support and peoples experience.

My ds1 is part of a large friend group. When he joined the group it was much smaller but several groups have merged, and within the group there are pockets of kids who are closer and ones who have other friends outside this group and float between groups. ds1 is close to a smaller group of 4 or 5. The larger group have been doing a lot of gaming together in an evening over the winter with the odd meet up to play football or to hang at the shopping centre and if last summer is anything to go by they will move on to meeting in person more as the weather gets better.
Within the wider group there is a boy who for the want of a better word is an arse. In school he is fine (although there has started to be some spillage in to school now) but put him behind a mic or a snapchat group call and he is vile. He basically picks a target and makes things really hard for them. Constantly causing arguments with the latest target, rallying others to wind the target up, blocking them playing with the group, removing them from calls, sending mean messages and lately being nasty and lying about targets parents and been derogatory towards them. Generally causing issues. This is mostly just online and I know a lot of this as I can hear the conversations and I do check social media / message usage on a very regular basis.

Unfortunately for the last month or so this lad has taken a dislike to Ds1, and ds1 has firmly been in his sights.

Things ds1 has put up with:
Banter focused on my deceased dad (ds1 was close to him)
Targeting him in games, making a beeline to kill him when they are in a game.
Sharing pictures of ds1 younger brother that he has pulled from someone else’s social media.
Starting arguments and turning it round on to ds1
Taking the piss / being nasty about my dh
Removing him from message groups and group calls
Blocking him from playing with the group. Y saying Ds1 can’t play etc
Low and high level nastiness

There has been some big arguments recently and my son has stooped to his level calling his dad a name. My response was hard on ds1 for this and I am aware that Ds1 does retaliate at times so isnt innocent by any means, but any reaction is always in response.

Things seemed to calm down for a few weeks but again last night it all kicked off again, to the point my ds1 removed himself from the group calls and games and played online with another friend who is also having similar issues with the same lad. This in itself caused the lad to start talking about Ds1 on the group chat causing more arguments. Ds1 is really worn down by it all. This one kid is making things really hard for him and it is taking toll on him, he doesn’t want to have this conflict with this kid or anyone else for that matter.

I have no idea how to navigate this with him, or for him. His closer friends are decent and do try to defuse the situation but I feel that they are also afraid of the lad turning on them. Ds1 has categorically told me not to make contact with school or the kids parents, he feels this will cause more issues, but I have no idea how to help resolve it, just being here in the background to support isn't really working. Ds1 has tried not interacting with the kid but still gets dragged.

It’s causing a lot of upset for me personally as I really feel I am letting Ds1 down.

Suggestions , hand holding would be much appreciated.

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Vlddns · 05/04/2025 09:51

DS1 should punch this bully right in the face when he least expects it. No matter of "try and talk to the bully" will get them to change the behaviour.

Geneticsbunny · 05/04/2025 10:19

My daughter has similar with her group of friends and I just keep reassuring her that either the person will realise that being mean isn't the best way to keep friends and change or they will keep doing it and people will drift off and stop including them in stuff. I think that him removing himself from the group temporarily so that this guy has to pick a different target is the best plan.

SedumRoof · 05/04/2025 10:22

How old are they?

Dave57 · 05/04/2025 10:29

Vlddns · 05/04/2025 09:51

DS1 should punch this bully right in the face when he least expects it. No matter of "try and talk to the bully" will get them to change the behaviour.

Are you my husband 🤣
ds will get to this point and I am trying to avoid this if possible because that in itself will cause lots of upset for him personality

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SedumRoof · 05/04/2025 10:33

I definitely wouldn’t escalate it. In my experience with similar dynamics occurring from time to time in DS (13)’s friendship group, it just gets forgotten and they’re all gaming together as usual in no time. I’ll say ‘Do you actually want to invite X to your party? I thought he was being an arse’ and DS will say ‘Oh, he’s calmed down’ or ‘He helped me with lots of cheats in Random Game’.

Dave57 · 05/04/2025 10:39

SedumRoof · 05/04/2025 10:22

How old are they?

13-15 age group

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2chocolateoranges · 05/04/2025 10:43

Vlddns · 05/04/2025 09:51

DS1 should punch this bully right in the face when he least expects it. No matter of "try and talk to the bully" will get them to change the behaviour.

I have to say my cousin was bullied relentlessly by another boy and the only thing that stopped it was my cousin thumping the boy a few times. After that he wanted to be his friend, the best of it was the bully’s dad ended up at school to make a formal complaint but my cousin had kept all text messages and photos of bruises the other boy had given him before he retaliated.

ds also had a bit of bother from a friend which he hadn’t disclosed to me, but another parent did but I had gone idk ds up from school and witnessed it myself. I shouted out the car to the boy (just enough to embarrass him in front of his peers) that if it didn’t stop I would go to his guidance teacher and to his parents door, he phoned and apologised to ds and ds never had any bother again.

I’ve always told my children to not hit first but if they are hit ,, then they hit back harder.

drspouse · 05/04/2025 10:44

Your DS needs better friends. And not to try and communicate with them through gaming chat.
I would be limiting the time doing this - or switch to one trusted buddy.
And find him something not online that takes up more of his time.

MagicalMystical · 05/04/2025 10:46

Vlddns · 05/04/2025 09:51

DS1 should punch this bully right in the face when he least expects it. No matter of "try and talk to the bully" will get them to change the behaviour.

Sometimes, this really is the only way at that age. I had to do it once, recommended by my very gentle and loving parents - worked an absolute treat. Was never bullied again and years later I actually got a drunken apology from her. Turns out it was a combo of jealousy and thinking I was an easy target. She was wrong 😂

Spottidogs · 05/04/2025 10:56

Dd had a similar person to contend with in years 7 and 8. She removed herself from the group chat/game if this girl got nasty. Over time the groups re-evolved and this girl wasn't part of it. She later said she realised what an arse she'd been. She continued to have arguments with her new friends. But I think what he's doing is probably the right course of action. Form a smaller group gradually and don't be tempted to allow the arse in it.

dippy567 · 05/04/2025 10:59

Tough one. Could your son just try and make it into banter...like 'oh ha ha, I see I'm bob's target for today eye roll emoji. Bob you dont need to pick on me to make you feel better, we all like you as you are joke emoji but we're here for you bruh' to almost turn it round, in a joke I see what you're doing, but stop it way....

MolkosTeenageAngst · 05/04/2025 11:03

Bullies like this rely on people being too scared to bring it to a teacher or their parents but that is the best option. Take screenshots of everything he is doing and report it to the school, they should take cyber bullying that happens out of school but between school pupils seriously. The best way you can help your son is by taking this further, he might be scared of the bully but doesn’t mean you need to be.

Vlddns · 05/04/2025 11:04

My DS had something like this when he was 13. Arguably it was less "serious" as DS's actual friends stuck by him. But this boy would constantly mock DS about his appearance, the way he talks and just everything. This boy got other's (but not DS's friends) to join in on the mockery and exclusion.

DS lost his cool one day and just beat the snot out of him.

Dave57 · 05/04/2025 13:21

Thanks you everyone.
He has just tried to make jokes back, but it doesn’t really deter him. Ds1 has been quite shy and quiet and I think he has been seen as an easy target in all honesty. He does have his moments though so it will just be a matter of time before it goes too far.

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