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DD hates me

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AuntieMeemz · 10/03/2025 20:44

Someone help me please. DD is almost 18. Since about 10, she has often really me off. It's hard to describe but rather like a really nasty person would tell off a dog they hated. She tells me she talks to all her friends like that, but we've had her friends round all her life, and she doesn't talk to them like that. She never talks to family, our freinds or people outside the house like that. She says all her friends say it's me, yet they have never heard her tells me off.
It took DH a few years to get on board but now he backs me up more because he feels she is rude to him too. Every time I talk to her about it, ( iam generally fairly calm about it) she just rages at me with an endless list of everything that is wrong with me. She tells me there is nothing wrong with how she speaks to me, that she is not disrespectful and the problem totally lis with me. She used to gaslight me a lot, but now i get her to confirm things with a msg, and it's stopped. Nowadays I don't listen to it all but just repeat.. 'the way you spoke to me at dinner/ whatever, is unacceptable'.
She is generally a good teenager, doing well at school, follows our other rules has a lovely boyfriend and has a part time job.
Home life is comfortable and settled and has been all her life
It is absolutely breaking my heart thinking what if i am this godawful person, oblivious to all my faults, who haa ruined our relationship and prevented her from ever having a good relationship with me.i am probably a person with an average level of faults in average amounts, which I do work on.

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AuntieMeemz · 26/03/2025 15:53

TheStigarette · 26/03/2025 15:48

Take back your power OP.
Be a little bit more unavailable to her.
Go out and have your own fun with your own friends and hobbies. Let her see that.
Seeing that you have a life full of friends will not only make you feel better but will show her you don't have character flaws, that plenty of people love you and that you are fine just as you are.

I like that idea. Therapist has shown me ways to take back my power. As of last week, absolutely no 'free services' have been provided for DD. It has been hard, but starting to get results. She now gets absolutely nothing from DH and me,

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AuntieMeemz · 26/03/2025 15:57

OneQuirkyPanda · 26/03/2025 15:32

It seems like she has a lot of anger and resentment towards you, what kind of things is she criticising you about? Was there anything that triggered this?

I was very critical of my mum when I was a teenager, no where near as bad as your daughter is, but looking back I think it’s because I always felt like she favoured my brother and I was lashing out at her in response.

Always about what I say, who I say it to. In public it's about what I do, where I stand, etc etc. She will contradict everything i say, criticise me on every single action i take etc. On a recent trip both a taxi driver and later a waitress, having heard her briefly, told her to be nice to her mum! I think she has a lot of anger towards me, but resents me so much, she can't walk with me, nor sit with me (we've done a lot of Uni visits recently). I think it has a lot to do with DS, who is older. He is kind, gentle and respectful, so easier to get on with.

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Pumpkincozynights · 26/03/2025 16:04

I should tell her when she goes to uni to take all her s* with her, as once she has gone you will be reclaiming back her bedroom, and decorating it to your own style. Tell her anything she leaves may well end up skipped. She sounds rude and vile op.
Yes I have adult dcs and I always made them welcome as well as having their friends to stay. If any of them had spoken to me like this, then the door would have been well and truly bolted once they left for uni.

OneQuirkyPanda · 26/03/2025 16:05

AuntieMeemz · 26/03/2025 15:57

Always about what I say, who I say it to. In public it's about what I do, where I stand, etc etc. She will contradict everything i say, criticise me on every single action i take etc. On a recent trip both a taxi driver and later a waitress, having heard her briefly, told her to be nice to her mum! I think she has a lot of anger towards me, but resents me so much, she can't walk with me, nor sit with me (we've done a lot of Uni visits recently). I think it has a lot to do with DS, who is older. He is kind, gentle and respectful, so easier to get on with.

Why do you think it has a lot to do with her brother? Do you think she feels your favour her brother?

I am just thinking that if she’s not this way with anyone else, then there must be some reason for it rather than her just being an awful bully.

Wishyouwerehere50 · 26/03/2025 16:20

Some things you describe remind me of my son. He's Autistic, it's a type called PDA. Incredibly controlling, I often feel like I'm being gaslit and I'm the problem when I lose it.

I think it's fine to accept you don't like the person they are and hope for change.

If you don't ever see any glimpse of any care for other people; genuine care and compassion, it is worth just contemplating if there's something else going on. Many people are actually personality disordered in some way and you can't reason with this imo.

She might just be a horrible person. It's all quite odd to me that she's like this as I don't believe every teenager is just automatically this horrible.

She's treating you terribly either way and it means you have to try and park some of your motherly love to see that she needs to stop being so hideous and teach her how you expect to be treated. I couldn't have her in the house too long doing that to me to be honest. Child or not.

TheStigarette · 26/03/2025 16:22

AuntieMeemz · 26/03/2025 15:53

I like that idea. Therapist has shown me ways to take back my power. As of last week, absolutely no 'free services' have been provided for DD. It has been hard, but starting to get results. She now gets absolutely nothing from DH and me,

Taking back your power is so much broader than how you relate to your dd.
I think she perhaps sees you as a doormat and someone she doesn't respect.
It's worn you down but i truly think the relationship will improve if you focus on yourself. Do you have hobbies away from the home? Buy some new clothes, things for you, go to bars with friends. With dh. Just shift the dynamic away from her being central to you.
She'll notice. Even if she says nothing.
The only way the dynamic between you will change is by her wanting it to. It sounds like you have tried everything with her. What about a step back and working on strengthening yourself and your power so that she wants you in her life.

Marshbird · 26/03/2025 16:56

HeyDoodie · 11/03/2025 00:56

She sounds very young despite being 18. Her brain won’t be fully developed until she’s 24, so sadly there’s still a few years to go. Do you spend any time together 1:1, without the others. Can you find a regular hobby to share? Rebuild the bond.

How do you speak to her?

personally I’d record her doing it once and play it back to her at a calmer moment

This. They’re not human till they’re in 20s. Sadly. 🤣🤣
though it was true for us and our parents too. 🤷‍♀️

Marshbird · 26/03/2025 17:09

My mum, long since passed away, gave me parenting advice . Don’t try to be your children’s friend

ok, I think at times it perhaps was a bit harsh, but she was loving, and a fantastic nurturer and teacher.

amd there’s an element of pragmatism to it. You are raising a child. Ok, she’s nearly there. But not yet . You have to remain the adult still, and let her do adulting when she can no matter how badly, and continue to guide her with feedback like, “I feel upset when you say…was that how you meant it to be taken,? “ but keep it light. Tell her you love her whatever, but it is ok to say sometimes I don’t like it when you do x, y,z . Criticise behavoiurs not character. Let her know you are still the parent with boundaries, but support and love her.

you wouldn’t “adult” a friend would you? Keep a clear distinction between your role and her needs. She healthy in having a bit of rebellion, she growing away form you. You are no l9nger her main sphere of influence, her social network outside the family is becoming that. And if she’s a good kid otherwise, this is her rebellion, her individuality…no kid wants to mimic their parents. Yep, it’s painful, but just keep telling yourself she not doing drugs, stealing, skipping school and all the other crap some kids find themselves doing as acts of rebellion.

if you’ve done, And continue to do a reasonable loving job, she will probleably become more human adult as she gets into her twenties. Hang in. It could get a bit worse if she goes to unit first 🤷‍♀️😱. But trust you’ve done a good job, and it will , in most cases, come out in wash.

once she becomes a fully formed decent human, then, and only then can you expect friendship. Nuture that when it happens. You can then take delight in reminding her of all the shit things she used to say to you …particualrly worth savouring when and if she ever has teenagers of her own!

Thepossibility · 26/03/2025 18:46

My youngest sister was like this with our DM, I was regularly shocked the way she treated her. I would never have dared! But I think that is why she did it, she was comfortable dishing out all her frustration at life on DM- she was her emotional punching bag.
They are so close now, she's the closest to DM of us all by far. She even named her child after DM! What changed was DS moving out and having to navigate life on her own instead of having DM there to bully and vent she needed to sort shit on her own.

AuntieMeemz · 27/03/2025 08:56

Wishyouwerehere50 · 26/03/2025 16:20

Some things you describe remind me of my son. He's Autistic, it's a type called PDA. Incredibly controlling, I often feel like I'm being gaslit and I'm the problem when I lose it.

I think it's fine to accept you don't like the person they are and hope for change.

If you don't ever see any glimpse of any care for other people; genuine care and compassion, it is worth just contemplating if there's something else going on. Many people are actually personality disordered in some way and you can't reason with this imo.

She might just be a horrible person. It's all quite odd to me that she's like this as I don't believe every teenager is just automatically this horrible.

She's treating you terribly either way and it means you have to try and park some of your motherly love to see that she needs to stop being so hideous and teach her how you expect to be treated. I couldn't have her in the house too long doing that to me to be honest. Child or not.

Wishyouwerehere50
There are definitely personality disorders. Ive spent many years researching. Yes, I think she has PDA and other traits. Right now, we have ended all free services. It might make her think eventually, but it's easier for me, I'm really enjoying it. Every night for 15 years, she has made cooking dinner and eating with her absotutely hell (won't eat what we eat, moves the goal posts constantly on what she will eat, foul temper at dinner, criticising me every time I open my mouth.. She now has to cook for herself, what an utter relief. We don't do anything for her at all, so we have our lives back too.
It's been hard for me to not do all the kind 'mum' things, but I do have a better life.

I have enlisted the help of a therapist, and DD is going to see her soon, like it or not. The way I see it is, that if DD has issues, she needs to be learning how to work around them and be decent to me, she is super pleasant to everyone else!

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AuntieMeemz · 27/03/2025 08:58

Thepossibility · 26/03/2025 18:46

My youngest sister was like this with our DM, I was regularly shocked the way she treated her. I would never have dared! But I think that is why she did it, she was comfortable dishing out all her frustration at life on DM- she was her emotional punching bag.
They are so close now, she's the closest to DM of us all by far. She even named her child after DM! What changed was DS moving out and having to navigate life on her own instead of having DM there to bully and vent she needed to sort shit on her own.

I'm praying this will happen to DD. She is going to Uni in Sept. At present, we have withdrawn all free domestic services. Either she is decent to me, or she sorts herself out. Totally identify with being an emotional punch bag! She is super lovely to everyone else, but an utter shit to me.
Since the end of all domestic services, we have seen small and gradual improvements. I'm not niaive enough to think she is changing her thinking, I know she is just working out how to manipulate the situation.

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AuntieMeemz · 27/03/2025 09:03

TheStigarette · 26/03/2025 16:22

Taking back your power is so much broader than how you relate to your dd.
I think she perhaps sees you as a doormat and someone she doesn't respect.
It's worn you down but i truly think the relationship will improve if you focus on yourself. Do you have hobbies away from the home? Buy some new clothes, things for you, go to bars with friends. With dh. Just shift the dynamic away from her being central to you.
She'll notice. Even if she says nothing.
The only way the dynamic between you will change is by her wanting it to. It sounds like you have tried everything with her. What about a step back and working on strengthening yourself and your power so that she wants you in her life.

I'm working on my image (just got the perfect jeans) I was a very late mum, so finding jeans at my age not easy. I've bought some new clothes and booked a perm. We've just got an allotment too. It will take time, but I'm moving on from this! Can't think of a hobby outside the house though. Tried line dancing but it was a (very funny) disaster!

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Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 27/03/2025 09:10

I think the phrase 'ah well, nobody's perfect' might get some exercise here. Why does she expect you to be perfect? Because that's how it sounds - as though she's trying to hold you to impossible standards of perfection.

I think this might be the place for you to assume an 'I really don't care about the opinion of a barely-cooked human' attitude. It's very easy to criticise when you have everything you could want and life is easy, and your DD has a charmed life while you are taking the strain.

It's really hard but she's offloading on the person she knows will always have her back, so maybe it's time that she learned to offload elsewhere. I have three DDs, one of whom was an absolute cow in her teenage years, she's in her thirties now and is absolutely lovely, so there's hope!

dontcryformeargentina · 27/03/2025 09:25

I used to be like this as a teen. I regret about it now and my relationship with my mum million times better. In retrospective, I realised that my mum represented to me everything I didn't want to be as a woman. My mum was spineless, people pleaser, wanted to stay married at any cost, allowed our dad to treat us appallingly ( he was a bully) and I was punishing her for that as a teen. I'm a complete opposite of what my mum was and I understand now why I hated her as a teen.

TheStigarette · 27/03/2025 09:37

Well done. Focus on the things that give you joy.

What did you like when you were young? Tune into you. Not dd.
The power shift will be empowering

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