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Stroking thigh

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TrueKentGirl · 31/10/2024 08:38

My son had an 18 Birthday party in our house, with a group of friends including his best friends. During the evening his very best friend stroked one of the girls thighs, she said ‘no’ and he did it again laughing. Then this friend moved on to one of his close friends girlfriend when he was out of the room. He stroked her thigh, said he was jealous and said you need more vodka. The next morning he sent a message to one of the girls saying “I am……..if I offended you”. No apology.
He then went to school and told a very toned down version to one of the friends that didn’t go but then when he spoke to the girl’s boyfriend and my son professed not to remember anything about the night.
He did write a letter to the boyfriend asking him to apologise to the girl for him.
The group of lads blocked him on all social media.
I was very good friends with the boys mum as my son and her son grew up together as best friends. Shortly after my mum died I popped in to see her but it became apparent that she and her family were very angry and upset in the way her son had been treated by the group. I told her what had happened but she thought it was all ridiculous. She told me that she had told her son that his friends had shown their true colours and were never his real friends!
We smoothed it over and I thought we were still friends. Several months have gone by and I invited my friend for coffee but yesterday she sent me a message saying she can no longer be my friend because she feels it’s a betrayal to her son but in social situations she will be polite and courteous towards me to prevent any awkwardness. I said that I feel a bit the same way and understand where she is coming from but that there are two sides to every story.
I can’t help but feel that she is condoning his behaviour by not being my friend anymore and by telling her son that the boys were never real friends. She obviously feels very sad for her son being isolated from the group. But the boys were shocked by his actions and could no longer trust him.

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CowTown · 31/10/2024 08:40

She’s contributing to the “boys will be boys” rhetoric. Move on. A woman who defends her son touching girls without their consent is not worth your time.

TrueKentGirl · 31/10/2024 08:40

What do think ?

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TrueKentGirl · 31/10/2024 08:42

CowTown · 31/10/2024 08:40

She’s contributing to the “boys will be boys” rhetoric. Move on. A woman who defends her son touching girls without their consent is not worth your time.

Do you think I should tell her that her actions are condoning his actions? I feel like she doesn’t realise.

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CowTown · 31/10/2024 08:44

Do you think she’ll say, “You’re right—my son should not touch girls without their consent and it was wrong of him to do that.” Or will she double-down with the story that he’s the real victim in the situation?

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 31/10/2024 08:45

Does she even know what he's done or has she only heard whatever version he's told her?

Nordione1 · 31/10/2024 08:46

CowTown · 31/10/2024 08:44

Do you think she’ll say, “You’re right—my son should not touch girls without their consent and it was wrong of him to do that.” Or will she double-down with the story that he’s the real victim in the situation?

This is very true. A good parent will acknowledge her son was wrong and teach him to do better. These parents who will not see any fault in their own (often horrible) children do damage to their own child in the long run.

TrueKentGirl · 31/10/2024 08:47

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 31/10/2024 08:45

Does she even know what he's done or has she only heard whatever version he's told her?

Yes I told her what he had done but I did say that I thought he was drunk

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TrueKentGirl · 31/10/2024 08:56

CowTown · 31/10/2024 08:44

Do you think she’ll say, “You’re right—my son should not touch girls without their consent and it was wrong of him to do that.” Or will she double-down with the story that he’s the real victim in the situation?

I think the latter, probably it will go nuclear. I feel sad that she told her son that my son was obviously never a real friend, when actually they were the best of friends for 16 years before this incident

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TrueKentGirl · 31/10/2024 09:05

Nordione1 · 31/10/2024 08:46

This is very true. A good parent will acknowledge her son was wrong and teach him to do better. These parents who will not see any fault in their own (often horrible) children do damage to their own child in the long run.

Thing is I know this boy very well and it was completely out of character, he is a lovely boy. However his behaviour has gone unrecognised by his mum and has decided to defend him by telling me we can no longer be friends.

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Todaywasbetter · 31/10/2024 09:05

You’re making a mountain out of a mole hill I don’t know why the parents are getting involved

TrueKentGirl · 31/10/2024 09:07

Todaywasbetter · 31/10/2024 09:05

You’re making a mountain out of a mole hill I don’t know why the parents are getting involved

I don’t think I am, we only spoke about it once about 8 months ago. I thought my friend and I had smoothed it over and moved on so I was shocked by her message to me yesterday saying we can no longer be friends. That’s sad after 18 years of friendship don’t you think ?

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FfsBrian · 31/10/2024 09:14

His refusal to apologise for his behaviour is sickening. His mother has created a predator and if give her a big swerve

Summerhillsquare · 31/10/2024 09:15

Todaywasbetter · 31/10/2024 09:05

You’re making a mountain out of a mole hill I don’t know why the parents are getting involved

Because it's their responsibility to bring their sons up well, so they don't go round harassing women.

FfsBrian · 31/10/2024 09:17

TrueKentGirl · 31/10/2024 09:07

I don’t think I am, we only spoke about it once about 8 months ago. I thought my friend and I had smoothed it over and moved on so I was shocked by her message to me yesterday saying we can no longer be friends. That’s sad after 18 years of friendship don’t you think ?

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Mothers can get very defensive over their kids. Don’t underestimate what they are prepared to do to protect them. In this case her son was accused of inappropriate behaviour and the shame of it has caused her to take offence.

KingAndQueenOf1098 · 31/10/2024 09:19

I'm impressed with the group of boys not condoning pervy boy's behaviour at the party 🎉well done to them.

Why would you want to be friends with his mother? She is condoning sexually inappropriate behaviour towards unsuspecting girls. Tell her what happened, her reaction will show you if she is worth bothering with.

I detest mothers who downplay boys inappropriate behaviours, they disgust me.

Nordione1 · 31/10/2024 09:23

TrueKentGirl · 31/10/2024 09:05

Thing is I know this boy very well and it was completely out of character, he is a lovely boy. However his behaviour has gone unrecognised by his mum and has decided to defend him by telling me we can no longer be friends.

So stupid of her to shut down possible future sources of information about her son's behaviour! I'd be wanting to keep a close eye if it were my son!

KingAndQueenOf1098 · 31/10/2024 09:45

Thing is I know this boy very well and it was completely out of character, he is a lovely boy.

To the girls whose personal, physical and sexual boundaries were violated, it matters not one bit if he once was a lovely boy whatever that's supposed to mean. If he was actually a lovely young man, he'd be mortified and apologise to the girls directly and unreservedly, not to their boyfriend, which is sexist and weird. There are too many mothers who excuse their sons' inappropriate behaviour and blame everyone else apart from their princeling.

I know one who is outspoken, calls herself a lefty, eco, feminist and excuses anything her teenage son does, no matter how inappropriate. She also thinks grabbing a girl under her skirt at school is just normal silly kids behaviour and blames girls for being dramatic.

W0tnow · 04/11/2024 17:57

I has this kid continued to be ostracised by his friends? It’s not clear from your post.

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