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Son has fallen victim to online scam - advice please

74 replies

Seaside1234 · 23/06/2024 14:44

Husband has just phoned to say that my poor 15 yo son has been the victim of a horrendous online scam - he's been conned into sending nudes, blackmailed and then had the images sent to contacts on his Instagram. I'm furious, heartbroken and so frustrated that he did this - I thought kids today were wise to this kind of thing, but the scammers are clearly evil pros. Husband is ringing police. I'm so frightened what this might do to him. Please help with any advice or support. What can we do to help him through this?

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beckybarefoot · 23/06/2024 15:58

Seaside1234 · 23/06/2024 15:57

And this has prompted me to make sure I talk really clearly to my 11yo daughter as well. I guess we have to get any positive aspects out of it that we can

surely given whats happened you will be making sure your 11 year old daughter does not have any kind of social media accounts?

andtheendwasgone · 23/06/2024 15:59

NewDogOwner · 23/06/2024 15:04

Tell him just to say to his contacts they are deepfakes and someone is trying badly to con money out of him. Never admit they are real. This could help help protect him a little.

Great idea

coldcallerbaiter · 23/06/2024 16:08

These scammers ask for funds via money transfer.

Any transfer will have a name and location (prob Africa). You normally need real ID to pickup money.

The authorities ought to report these names to their Country law enforcement, may not do anything but they should at least be afraid of consequences.

bluedressforme · 23/06/2024 16:16

I think the brilliant bit in all of this is that he came to you/Dh and told you it had happened. I would just look at drawing a line under why he did it he has most certainly learned a lesson. I would talk about staying safe going forward, that he swags it out with saying they are deep fakes, and that you have his back and will do whatever you can to support and protect him.

Absolutely loads of teens and adults fall victim to this sort of thing, he is not alone, he is not stupid and they are very clever. Remind him everyone makes mistakes, even adults and you are here for him.

Irishmama100 · 23/06/2024 16:20

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-66736462.amp

Happened to this guy, he spoke on the radio and I happened to be in the car with my son. He just rolled with it, he speaks in schools advising kids. So sorry this happened and I am so glad he shared with you so you can support. Good luck op 🙏☘️

Nathan McErlean

I'm a sextortion victim but it didn't end my world - BBC News

Nathan McErlean was given an ultimatum - pay thousands or have nude photos of him shared online.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-66736462.amp

Bluescissorsbluepen · 23/06/2024 16:22

Truly the best in this situation is that he told his dad, so good for him.

it’s worth saying to all young people that everybody has a naked body. Obviously is embarrassing and humiliating but actually people knowing shouldn’t be the end of the world. Not to minimise feelings, at all, but that’s what an older lady said to my children when her granddaughter had been caught in something similar. She says it too all young people she knows. Everyone has a naked body and they all look basically the same.

Seaside1234 · 23/06/2024 16:26

@Bluescissorsbluepen absolutely - I work in healthcare and there's no body part that would have the slightest effect on me!

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avarteahaba · 23/06/2024 16:44

NewDogOwner · 23/06/2024 15:04

Tell him just to say to his contacts they are deepfakes and someone is trying badly to con money out of him. Never admit they are real. This could help help protect him a little.

This.

BananaSpanner · 23/06/2024 16:50

As a pp has said, the offenders are likely not within our jurisdiction and not much will likely happen.

It’s unfortunately really common and I have already started to coach my nearly teenage son about the dangers and risks of sending images of yourself online (not that he has any interest yet).

mathanxiety · 23/06/2024 16:50

coldcallerbaiter · 23/06/2024 16:08

These scammers ask for funds via money transfer.

Any transfer will have a name and location (prob Africa). You normally need real ID to pickup money.

The authorities ought to report these names to their Country law enforcement, may not do anything but they should at least be afraid of consequences.

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They're not afraid of consequences.

Money can be transferred via PayPal. No ID needed.

socks1107 · 23/06/2024 16:57

Happened to my sd. She didn't tell anyone though and it went on years, we suspect still is.
She'd do anything for these people including give up family and future. Glad he's told you as you can support him as needed.
Best advice now take him off line for a while

coldcallerbaiter · 23/06/2024 17:05

mathanxiety · 23/06/2024 16:50

They're not afraid of consequences.

Money can be transferred via PayPal. No ID needed.

PayPal is banned in many of these countries, not all. PayPal holds new or suspicious transfers routinely and it can be charged back via unauthorised claim.

Money services like WU stop transfers too tbh. But these scammers want the money sent guaranteed directly to be withdrawn.

I agree, reporting it won’t have consequences, but ppl still
should file the report, the more ppl that do it, slows these low-life’s down.

Seaside1234 · 23/06/2024 17:12

Thank you all for your replies, the support is much appreciated. Police apparently of the opinion the pictures are unlikely to go any further. I'm just so relieved he knew he could tell us. Hopefully he'll get past it and learn what needs to be learnt.

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RainbowColouredRainbows · 23/06/2024 17:29

Sorry this has happened to him 😔. The police do take this kind of thing seriously, but I agree that it'll most likely be from overseas. I would also recommend him calling childline as they also will be able to offer some support in these cases.

thequeenoftarts · 23/06/2024 17:40

Poor kid, I feel very sorry for him and anyone else fallen scam to this. Admit nothing, deny it all. No one can prove its him at all in the pics, esp as you can they look badly photoshopped. Rotten evil bastards preying on people in this manner. Hope they fall into a pit of lime and die screaming

RoseberrryTopping · 23/06/2024 17:49

This is a known scam and they don't send photos to his contacts btw - all part of the whole hideous threat though!

I had all of this with my son last year when he burst into my bedroom at 4am in a panic to tell me what was going on.

He handed me his iPad and I just blocked the account and nothing else happened.

Well I say nothing else happened! My son had to endure several conversations with me about it all - I'd spent a good few years previously talking to him about how we never send photos of our penis etc etc but of course, aged 16, hormones etc etc they just don't THINK.

It's very common and he shouldn't feel ashamed. My son actually refers to it as 'penis gate' now and we can laugh (sort of!)

I'm just so so relieved that he was able to come and get me straight away and tell me without embarrassment because I know others haven't been able to

And if you're a parent reading this thread and feeling confident that your son or daughter would not do this - please - talk to them. Open up a conversation about it and tell them they can come to you about anything

Could be a life saver

Blogswife · 23/06/2024 18:16

He’s been very brave and you must have a good relationship for him to have confided in you . I hope it blows over Op. He’s learnt a hard lesson.

Kindnesscostsnothingtryit · 23/06/2024 22:20

Seaside1234 · 23/06/2024 14:44

Husband has just phoned to say that my poor 15 yo son has been the victim of a horrendous online scam - he's been conned into sending nudes, blackmailed and then had the images sent to contacts on his Instagram. I'm furious, heartbroken and so frustrated that he did this - I thought kids today were wise to this kind of thing, but the scammers are clearly evil pros. Husband is ringing police. I'm so frightened what this might do to him. Please help with any advice or support. What can we do to help him through this?

This happened to my son 2 years ago..I was absolutely devastated as so out of character for him, he's very quiet and sensible. He told me straight away and my gut said they'll move on if he ignores them and so that's what we did and thankfully never heard anything again! They're literally targeting hundreds/thousands of people at a time and there's no mileage in pursuing someone who doesn't respond.

DuesToTheDirt · 23/06/2024 22:39

Seaside1234 · 23/06/2024 14:44

Husband has just phoned to say that my poor 15 yo son has been the victim of a horrendous online scam - he's been conned into sending nudes, blackmailed and then had the images sent to contacts on his Instagram. I'm furious, heartbroken and so frustrated that he did this - I thought kids today were wise to this kind of thing, but the scammers are clearly evil pros. Husband is ringing police. I'm so frightened what this might do to him. Please help with any advice or support. What can we do to help him through this?

Kids are most certainly not wise to this. There was a case recently of a police officer in Wales who had pretended to be a teenage boy and asked 210 girls for nude photos. 207 of them complied! Shock

So on the one hand - OP don't feel your son was alone in this. But on the other hand, we could be doing a hell of a lot more to warn our kids.

Lewis Edwards custody picture

Lewis Edwards: Snapchat sex abuse images police officer jailed

Lewis Edwards targeted more than 200 girls and blackmailed them to send sexual images.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67177330

Seaside1234 · 23/06/2024 22:57

I'm so sorry for your kids who've been in the same situation, but I'm very grateful to you for sharing your experiences. I think he'll be ok but he's understandably shaken and still nervous that it could all still kick off. And no sense of potential justice for it either

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TimGrantsNoAccessToWomen · 23/06/2024 23:00

DuesToTheDirt · 23/06/2024 22:39

Kids are most certainly not wise to this. There was a case recently of a police officer in Wales who had pretended to be a teenage boy and asked 210 girls for nude photos. 207 of them complied! Shock

So on the one hand - OP don't feel your son was alone in this. But on the other hand, we could be doing a hell of a lot more to warn our kids.

Jesus christ.

ToplessWordle · 23/06/2024 23:04

https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/scams-and-safety/common-scams-and-crimes/sextortion/financially-motivated-sextortion
A bit more advice here. So sorry that this has happened to your son. These guys are utterly heartless.

CatMumSlave · 24/06/2024 08:02

Seaside1234 · 23/06/2024 15:45

@Gillbil @NewDogOwner yes, this is exactly what I've said to him. Thankfully images of his face and bits don't apparently appear in the same image, so any images look like they've been manipulated anyway

What do you mean by they have been photoshopped?

TiddlyCove · 24/06/2024 08:07

Well done to your DS for having the courage to talk to you about it. He's done the best possible thing. Sadly, a very common scam that many fall for. I agree, in the unlikely event any pictures are circulated, there'd be no way of any recipients knowing whether they were genuine or not.

Sweetvalleyhigh1234 · 25/06/2024 21:52

Op there is some info that childline have for removing images from the Internet if the child is.under 18... not sure how it works for Instagram but have a look in case, ive put the link below. Reach out to the platform directly as well requesting urgent support to make sure anything being posted is taken down.

www.childline.org.uk/info-advice/bullying-abuse-safety/online-mobile-safety/report-remove/

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