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Teenagers

Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

Moody teen or just a little sh*t?

13 replies

missmatch23 · 07/09/2023 17:57

My DS turned 18 a month ago. I have a 9 y/o at home also. My 18 y/o is constantly assertive with 9y/o, to the point 9y/o gets irritated and becomes angry the moment his DB comes home. Constant arguments and bickering when left unsupervised.

Older DS has taken a gap year, works 16 hours a week tops, and often won't get up until 1/2pm. I'm aware that he is an adult now, so pass no judgment or opinion on this however, he doesn't mind disturbing the household up and down the stairs getting phone charger, quilt, ear phones etc several times a night.

Whenever I say anything about anything, he flounces out of the room with an air of being better than everyone about him. I have been off work for two months with depression, due to long term PTSD and anxiety. Since being off work, he has seriously regressed in the things he will help with at home. He would wash the pots for me in the past after tea, or at least vacuum his room. The general attitude has now basically been, as mums off work, she can do everything and I can do nothing.

It's to the point he won't make himself food and will go hungry or order takeout (never offers anyone else, and will sit there eating treats in front of LB, refusing if he asks), or even take his washing upstairs and put it away. I am seriously struggling at the moment, having treatment for depression and anxiety, and I have really struggled over the holidays to hide it from my younger son. My eldest passes comments such as, "and what have you done today?" or "Well I've been out, so I shouldn't have to help." He hasn't always been this self centred.

He will come home, I'll greet him and try to make conversation or ask if he wants anything, to be met with a grunt and straight up the stairs out of our company. He seems to be getting worse than better. How long does the moody teen stage last for? Or has he just become a really arrogant sod? I really don't like many parts of him at the moment.

I asked him to cut the grass for me while I went for counselling the other day (he's unaware of this, just said I had a checkup), and the look on his face was sheer horror. He's got a very feminine attitude and gives off this air that he should be a kept man. For now, I feel like he is expecting me to fulfill this role until he meets a boyfriend. I've been a single parent for 4 years, and he has always been encouraged to clean his mess etc. Now he just seems to treat me like a maid. I am tired and I am sick of the flouncing whenever I try to approach anything with him.

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ItstimeToMoveagain · 07/09/2023 18:26

That's just being a little shit , stop doing anything for him and tell him he needs to start pulling his weight

calyxx · 08/09/2023 07:11

He's living with you, you get to set some ground rules imho.

BoohooWoohoo · 08/09/2023 07:14

Tell him to go to uni this year because the gap year is clearly not going to work out.

Patchworksack · 08/09/2023 07:25

What is the purpose of the gap year? He needs to be using it to do something useful - either working (more than 16 hours) and saving for Uni or travelling and doing something that will be helpful to him in his chosen path. What course is he going to do? I wonder if he is seeing friends head off to Uni and he doesn’t actually have much of a purpose for this year and he’s struggling with that? However, he’s now a working adult so he should be contributing to running the household, both financially and with a share of the chores. Set some ground rules!

waterrat · 08/09/2023 10:37

He needs to wake up to the real world. He stops the unkind behaviour stops eating takeaways and acting like he is living in a flat share not considering his little sibling...

Or he moves out

IHateFlies · 08/09/2023 10:44

He's pretty bad. His attitude is all wrong. What makes him so mean?

He needs to do something with his gap year that's more than this and he definitely needs to help out. Charge him rent or in chores and see if that pushes him to earn more or be more careful with his money or help out more.

AmandaHoldensLips · 08/09/2023 10:51

He's being an entitled little shit. Stop doing anything for him and give him a list that he is now responsible for his own stuff including-

His own washing and ironing
Cleaning his room / changing his bed once a week
Cleaning the bathroom after himself
Cooking his own food and clearing up after himself
(plus a couple of general house things like putting bins out, washing kitchen floor once a week, etc)

Also on the list -

Not to bully or upset is younger brother
To speak respectfully to you and his younger brother
To not wake you up at night with his nocturnal lifestyle

So it will be there in black and white what you expect of him. Any rules he breaks, come down on him like a ton of bricks. And if he doesn't like it, time for him to move out.

Findyourneutralspace · 08/09/2023 10:51

Sounds like you’re really struggling and he is taking you for granted. I sympathise. It’s the worst part of parenting, when the dynamic changes and they are an ‘adult’ when it suits them but still expect you to mother them when it doesn’t.

At 18 he is old enough to know that you are struggling and need more help from him. It’s absolutely fine to tell him you are having treatment for depression and are attending counselling. It models seeking help when required and shows him you also need support.
Im guessing he’s not contributing financially either? If he wants you to play the role of a partner, he has to as well. That means stepping up to look after you when you are unwell, taking an equal or proportionate share of housework and chores, and contributing towards the bills.
All this won’t happen overnight but that’s what he needs to be working towards.

Time for a serious and honest chat with him. If you speak to him like an adult, you’ve more chance of him acting like one.

Findyourneutralspace · 08/09/2023 10:53

The alternative is you maintain the adult/child dynamic and he gets a curfew, bedtime, Wi-Fi restrictions etc. I doubt either of you want that.

Digestive28 · 08/09/2023 10:56

why are you hiding your mental health from him? Does he know you are off work because you are ill, or does he think you just are taking some time off - if it is the latter his expectations of you may be higher. It sounds like you could do with talking with him.

missmatch23 · 08/09/2023 12:02

The purpose of his gap year was to travel, something which it later transpired he was expecting me to fund for the most part. I have sent him jobs with more hours, stating I will give him money for Christmas he can put towards it, just as I did for his birthday.

In regards to my current health, he is aware why I am off work however, I didn't wish to disclose to him about my counselling. He is aware I am on two lots of medication, and knows I have been attending the doctors regularly. I don't wish to lean on him for all my emotional support, but he is aware I am struggling. You'd have to be blind not to see it.

I was up until gone 2am this morning, having anxiety attacks. This morning after I dropped my youngest to school, I came to my room to try and get some sleep, as I've had 4 hours worth. He has gotten up early and been up and down the stairs 17 times, as well as in my room twice. He then comes in asking for outfit opinions. There doesn't seem to be anyone that matters but him at the moment.

I think he's really just trying to execute he is an adult, and I can't dictate to him. I really do need to put a stop to this. Regarding his mean attitude, I think he gets jealous of my younger son. For reasons that are not obvious because I split time with them both where possible etc. Perhaps because he is so passive with his peers, he feels the need to come home and try and execute dominance.

I really do appreciate your comments and understanding. With the way I feel at the moment, I wasn't sure if I was just feeling sensitive. You've all been wonderful. Thank you so much.

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Findyourneutralspace · 08/09/2023 14:04

No you aren’t being over sensitive. Part of being an adult is pulling your weight and having consideration for others. He’s being very immature, ironically.

BoohooWoohoo · 08/09/2023 16:36

Does he have friends who are also on a gap year? My dd had a gap year and she worked 30+ hours a week and socialised with her other friends from school who also took a gap year so it wasn't wasted. It was a chance for her to rack up driving experience too as she couldn't take her test until year 13 because of the pandemic.

Definitely time to lay down some boundaries. Housemates wouldn't tolerate his behaviour either.

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