Working After 7pm

[Charliesunnysky10]

My 15 year old wants to apply for a job at the conference & banqueting venue I work for, in the summer holidays to earn herself some cash - there's lots of work available bringing food to tables/clearing away after the huge weddings, golf days etc. But my workmates think they won't take on a 15 year old - you have to be at least 16. However, if she was babysitting, parents stay out later than 7pm, and also the rules about only working between 7am and 7pm apply to both 15 and 16 year olds - it isn't clear if this only applies during term time though. I've tried .gov and ACAS websites bit can't get a conclusive answer. Any ideas?

I think your colleagues are right. I don't think she can work after 7pm

@WeWereInParis thanks. But then do all parents return from their evenings out by 7pm to stand their 15 year old baby sitter down?

I'm not asking you specifically, I just don't understand how unsupervised lone working is ok after 7pm but supervised team working is not. She'd be in my team.

The bigger issue is hospitality often want over 18s because of the serving of alcohol

Also in the real world lots of 15 year olds will be doing casual babysitting which is not the same as a paid role

For employment law i mean. Babysitting is casual and unregulated

It's great that your dd wants to work and earn herself some money. If you work there surely ask your manager about the laws around her working past a certain time?

I worked in a cafe making food, washing up, clearing tables, after 7pm.

I think a lot of co's won't employ anyone under 16 because insurance companies won't provide cover.

You’ll need to look on your local council’s website.

The venue will need to apply for a work permit for anyone under 16 - we’ve just recently done it for a member of staff’s 14 year old son who is going to work for us for a few hours a week during the holidays.

Theres loads of stuff they aren’t allowed to do, and I’m pretty sure they’re not allowed to work after 7pm.

Our insurance company weren’t bothered, they said age was irrelevant as long as we have the correct permit.

There’s some info here as well - https://www.gov.uk/child-employment/restrictions-on-child-employment

That's really useful, thank you. I don't want to put my manager in an awkward position where he has to say no, so I thought I'd see what the position is first, and find out if it's possible. I'll see if the permit is an option.

This. Babysitting is casual work, they are not employed.

you may also need a work permit from the local authority to employ someone under school leaving age.

My matés daughters work in a lical pizza shop until 11pm.