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Advice on 18 year old

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Beboggled · 22/03/2022 14:01

Hi
Newbie here.
Just looking for some advice please.
How do we support/motivate our 18 year old son?
To give some background, he absolutely hated school and was not motivated academically but he got through it and scraped through his GCSEs (lockdown yesterday). He went to college to do a Level 2 qualification to work with animals and planned to go on to uni and study to become a dog behaviourist (we have always had dogs and he is excellent with them). It wasn’t the best time to do the course as it ended up being 80% online because of lockdowns rather than the 80% practical it was advertised as. In any case he did very well and got a Distinction. During the summer holidays he got a weekend job at a local builders yard and really enjoyed it. He went back to college in the autumn to do Level 3 at college but he gave up the course when he turned 18 in November. We weren’t happy but supported his decision as we understood his reasons (didn’t like the course, didn’t want to pursue that career path, wanted to get a full tine job hopefully at the builders yard or similar). He had been told that there would be a vacancy at the builders yard due to someone else retiring in February so we agreed he would wait to see if that happened before he looked for an alternative job, especially as he had his driving test coming up.
In January his girlfriend (who was due to take her A Levels this summer) was suspended from 6th Form for non attendance. Her parents do not seem remotely bothered about the fact that she has abandoned her A Levels and so she has been doing nothing since.
In February, our son passed his driving test and we bought him a first car, a vacancy came up at the builders yard and he was offered it but turned it down, he applied for another local job in retail and was offered it but turned it down because ot ‘wasn’t a good fit’ in his view. There is another vacancy at the builders yard come up but he says he isn’t interested.
He is a good lad but he seems to be finding excuses not to get a job. He knows we cannot support him financially indefinitely - he has to rely on his earnings from his weekend job and a very small weekly allowance now for spending money as we don’t want him to feel as if he is having a free ride.
We understand it’s a big scary thing to grow up and can understand his reluctance to take the final step into being an adult but at the same time he just seems completely unmotivated and directionless. It’s worrying that his girlfriend seems to be in the same state of mind, lovely as she is.
The thing I struggle with is that both his older brothers were highly motivated and both followed a path they decided on and have good jobs which they love.
Our youngest just seems lost and, with only very basic qualifications, his options seem limited. We have suggested an employment agency so he can try different jobs whilst earning but he isn’t interested.
How can we help?
Feels like he is wasting his life.
Thanks

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Wrinklepicker · 22/03/2022 14:05

If he’s 18 and unemployed I’d say it’s time to cut his allowance and tell him to sign on. He sounds too comfortable to me.
A short stint on universal credit and paying board should be enough to make him realise that not working leads to a very meagre existence, and having the job centre on his back is a PITA for him.

Beboggled · 22/03/2022 14:30

Thanks Wrinklepicker
He applied for benefits but they have said he isn’t eligible because he is living at home.

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Frenzi · 23/03/2022 11:36

My eldest at 21 is very like this. She was very motivated until she reached around 17, met a new group of friends, dropped out of college and moved out. She now flits between one job and another but mainly survives on UC (she gets it as she doesn't live at home). She is constantly asking family members for money but we now all say no. I wouldn't see them starve so occasionally if I know they are really struggling I will take them food shopping or top up their gas/electric but I wont give them actual cash.

If she was living at home at 18 plus then I certainly wouldn't be giving her any money. I would make sure she has a roof over her head, that she is fed and has clean clothes, etc but I wouldn't be financing any sort of social life for her.

My youngest is 19 and currently in a full time job that she doesn't enjoy but she likes earning a wage and knows that if she gives up work we won't be subsidising her so she's currently frantically looking for something else. She does pay us board (only £100 a month) but I put that straight into an ISA for her (she doesn't know that). I have thought about charging her more but she's currently paying for her driving lessons and livery fees for the horse she decided to buy when she got her first full time job (which is the best incentive for keeping her at work - no job, no money, no horse!).

Gosh, writing that down makes me sound like a right mean mum!

He needs to motivate himself sadly - that isn't something you can do for him and generally not having any money is a good motivator!

Comefromaway · 23/03/2022 11:44

@Beboggled

Thanks Wrinklepicker He applied for benefits but they have said he isn’t eligible because he is living at home.
He's getting an easy ride OP.

He will only be eligible for minimum Universal Credit due to living at home but at 18 should be entitled to £257.00 per month (£59 per week). Is it that his weekend job earnings are taking him over that limit.

My son was talking of taking a year out (has now decided against) he has autism so jobs are difficult for him to find and we told him that would be fine but he's have to pay Keep. On Universal Credit we'd be wanting £25-30 per week to cover his food etc. We certainly would NOT be giving him a small spending allowance. That stops the moment he leaves full time education.

JamesStevenson · 01/04/2022 18:05

Oh gosh sounds like he really needs some support. Have you considered getting him some coaching sessions with a career coach? Make sure they have at least a Diploma in coaching and are accredited. Sounds to me like the best fit here.
Glad to hear there is some progress despite the difficulties with him being able to drive and him completing his course and getting a distinction.
Good luck!

Riverlee · 01/04/2022 18:34

I agree, stop supporting him. Maybe give him a date (3 months, his birthday etc) and say you will no longer be supporting him from then. Ie. Force his hand.

HellToTheNope · 01/04/2022 18:38

Tell him has a month to get a job and to start paying for his phone, food and internet. If he doesn't, the phone and internet get cut off. I would also be giving him plenty of work to do around the house, and if he doesn't do his fair share of chores and his own laundry, that starts today. Don't enable him.

Autumn42 · 01/04/2022 18:49

@HellToTheNope

Tell him has a month to get a job and to start paying for his phone, food and internet. If he doesn't, the phone and internet get cut off. I would also be giving him plenty of work to do around the house, and if he doesn't do his fair share of chores and his own laundry, that starts today. Don't enable him.
Agree with all the suggestions, not sure why your giving him an allowance?
harridan50 · 01/04/2022 18:57

You are enabling him to live like this
Maybe time for a reality check

FiveForAPound · 01/04/2022 19:14

we don’t want him to feel as if he is having a free ride.
Well he is!

I don't think people should boot their dc out the door when they reach adulthood but everyone has to pull their weight and do what's required of them.

He doesn't have to leap into being an adult in that if he doesn't quite know what he wants to do-that's fine BUT you work while you are thinking about it! You don't wait for a job in a builders yard because someone might retire.

It's

Member786495 · 02/04/2022 16:14

What do they actually do all day if neither are in education or employment?

And make sure their contraception is effective!

Youvebeengonesolong · 02/04/2022 16:38

It's so difficult op to know where the line is between support and enabling. And yes they are technically adults but some eighteen year olds can be quite young nowadays. You were kind and reasonable by waiting for the first construction job to come up, but then when he refused to take that, and the second one, he didn't suffer any consequences. And I think the relationship with his gf is probably not helping by the sound of it.

I think he needs a combination of tough love and maybe a deadline of five months, so he needs to be supporting himself, at least 50% or over, from 1st September. And he needs to try and commit to something, not just drift.

Good luck, it is a worry at this age, and young adults have had a horrible time recently during the pandemic. Hang in there op, I am sure he will find his way eventually Flowers

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