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Child doesn't want to see abusive ex

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Hempress · 30/09/2021 06:16

So this is my first time on mumsnet in over a decade but I just need to talk to SOMEONE. My girl is 14. She sees her father around twice a week, provided it's convenient for him. He offers no support and in fact from what i gather has created the same environment for his daughter as the one I lived in- one where she can't disagree, do her own thing, speak about her home life, me, my partner or his children who she gets on with fantastically. Just sit in a bubble of yes sir no sir three bags full.Angry VERY long story short, he's a terrible person who I've no doubt will die alone but that's no longer my concern, what bothers me is that my daughter now sees him for what he is, doesn't want to see him but in his usual manner, coercive control, he has made her feel she has to. He has done what he did to me and made her feel obliged. (I could take a knitting needles to his eyeballs rn tbh.) She said thinks she will be cut out from that side of the family if she did that and not see her grandparent. She asked why he doesn't see his other kids. I haven't yet told her the awful stuff I found out about him being such a shit that they moved away and changed her name. Myself and my partner tried to assure her that she didn't have to see him, but she's scared of him, and I don't blame her. So was I.
I did a quick search online and it looks like children can only make that choice at 16. There's no court order in place and he gives me literally nothing in maintenance so I don't think the legal side of it is a massive issue, he wouldn't bother going to court, too much effort, but I want to help my daughter understand that her father's reactions are his responsibility, not hers.

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YoBeaches · 30/09/2021 06:27

No she can make that choice now. Courts actually listen to the feelings of children as young as 7.

If she doesn't want to go, don't make her. Tell him she doesn't want to go and if he wants that to change he needs to think about what he will do differently.

That's it. Their relationship breakdown is his to repair, though he likely won't from
What you say.

Hempress · 30/09/2021 22:48

Thank you, you're right. It is his to repair.

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GettingItOutThere · 30/09/2021 22:54

no she can make the choice now, today. Tell her it's okay to stop seeing him, encourage this quite frankly as he sounds awful.

If she wants to see him when shes older and stronger then so be it.

No court in the land would be interested in taking on a case of a 14 year old

negomi90 · 30/09/2021 22:58

She can make that choice. She should see him one more time (he doesn't need to know its the last time) and get telephone numbers and contact info for her grandparents and other family she likes.
Then she can put her own effort into independent relationships with them and he can't block them from her.

bibliomania · 01/10/2021 15:27

Agree that she can make the choice. My dd decided at 12/13 and I know another couple who made the same decision at this age. It's like the scales fall from their eyes.

In theory he could take you to court, but it takes quite a while and a judge is very unlikely to insist on contact at this age.

ButterflyAway · 01/10/2021 15:37

I’d start looking to protect her from him now in your shoes, put a stop to visitation. Take the decision out of her hands, you know what she wants and how she feels she’s just unable to act on it but you as her mum can. She won’t hate you for it. I’d also suggest seeing about getting her some counselling so she doesn’t carry this into adulthood.

Congratulations on getting away from him and rebuilding your life Flowers

Hallowbat · 01/10/2021 15:41

She can absolutely make that choice now, my emotionally abusive narc ex has pushed all our children away with his behaviour and none of our teens or pre teen have had contact for many months now

WarriorN · 01/10/2021 15:43

Yea she can definitely, a friend's daughter now sees him for what he is and won't go near him.

MuffinDoing · 02/10/2021 08:41

@ButterflyAway

I’d start looking to protect her from him now in your shoes, put a stop to visitation. Take the decision out of her hands, you know what she wants and how she feels she’s just unable to act on it but you as her mum can. She won’t hate you for it. I’d also suggest seeing about getting her some counselling so she doesn’t carry this into adulthood.

Congratulations on getting away from him and rebuilding your life Flowers

Yes, i agree. You saved yourself from this man, you gave them a chance to try to develop a relationship but he's clearly irredeemable. Now time to save her from that kind of soul crushing treatment x
Indigomint · 02/10/2021 08:52

I'm in a very similar situation with my child op. They have decided they don't want to see their father anymore. In this case there is a court order in place , it has been since they were 2. I've told my child that they can decide as they wish and if their father brings the case back to family court I will support them. In my situation the very least that needs to happen is that it needs amending due to the needs of a 2yo and a 15yo beings very different. I'm not hugely concerned about family court as I have evidence that I've tried to open a dialogue within about flexibility of the court order but was essentially told to sod off.

In summary op , I'd just be glad that your child has made a healthy decision and truly seen what a mess their other parent is.

Good luck.

Indigomint · 02/10/2021 08:54

And also , answer her questions about her father honestly , tell her what you know without adding any opinions of your own.

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 02/10/2021 08:55

I could have written this. My daughter is 18 and away at uni now but it was only about a year ago that she made a stand and refused to see her dad. He was exactly the same as your ex, making her feel guilty about it. And ended up in therapy and not in a good place mentally. Please support your daughter to do what she needs to do. She's old enough to decide for herself.

Brollywasntneededafterall · 02/10/2021 09:11

At 12 and 14 my dc went nc with their df
.. And they had been with him more than me due to schools places...
They changed school and live ft with me. Exh didn't even message me about it!! Not once. No solicitor letter despite the court order being in his favour...

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