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Please help me understand my teen son, and help him away from a criminal path

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Auxurdeu · 11/07/2021 22:17

I have not posted for years, but now feel the need for the great Mumsnet advice that I know is here.

My son turned 16 in June. His behaviour started changing around Christmas time. I thought he was just unusually grumpy, typical teenager, fed up with pandemic, and suffering the winter blues. He has been very tired in the mornings and claimed to be feeling unwell. Magically he has been better at midday, after some more sleep. I was worried about his health and him isolating himself more and more.

To go back a little. He has always been very active, social, had many friends, been very engaged, and always had a project to work on.
He is fascinated with electronics, keen on tools, interesting in welding, wiring things, metal works, you name it.

Then just before his 16th birthday he told me that the reason he has been isolating himself from the family is that he has been getting drunk in his room alone after everybody has gone to sleep. He has been hungover almost every morning. He has also been smoking weed, he said nearly daily for two months. I spoke with him at length, and we both thought he was suffering from depression, because he said nothing gave him joy. There was no purpose to anything. Being drunk or high at least made him feel something. He agreed to come to the GP and get a referral for his depression. We are on the waiting list, and he has been seen once for an assessment.

He has not had any alcohol or weed now since the end of May, he says.
I dont know what to think because this behaviour was going on under our noses, and we suspected nothing. The only thing is that he is more like his usual self now, out with friends, seeing his girlfriend, busy on projects. His behaviour is much better, not like it was between Christmas and May. His eyes are alert, and he is talking to us again.

The problem is of course still there, as he needs to be seen for his depression.

However, there are aspects of his personality that I think is not helping:

  • He is impatient. He cannot see beyond the joy today. He wants something right away, and cant wait.
  • He gets bored easily, which is why he is working on project after project. He needs to be entertained and have something to do all the time. He cannot relax.
  • He has an "addiction personality". He will eat the same dish day in and day out for months until he is fed up. He loves online shopping, and will spend time looking for interesting things to buy, then wait eagerly, and lose interest quickly, then look for something new to order. He started smoking, drinking and smoking weed. He has stopped the latter, but finds it hard to also stop smoking. I have bouht nicotine gum.
  • Eating. He is not interested in food, and it is difficult to find food he likes. He used to love food, and would eat anything, broccoli, fruit platters, fish, anything!
-Self destruct - all his choises make it look like he is no self destruct. -Illegal things are more fun. He ordered a kit to convert a bike to a motorbike. It is not road legal. He does not yet have a 125cc bike licence. He spent time installing the engine onto the bike, and now it drives perfectly. He wants to ride it, he insists, although he knows he will get a driving ban if caught. He says he does not care. He is weeks from getting his license and his friends are waiting for him to be able to join them riding. He says he does not care, even if he is only weeks away from his license, as riding his bike is fun. And he does not care about the consequences. Besides he says, it is his problem not ours, so why should we care? It is impossible to talk to him.

I honestly dont know what to do. Tomorrow is his theory test. I worry he will be in such a frame of mind that he wont go.
He says "If you want let me ride this bike with an illegally fitted engine then I will become a drug addict again, and there is nothing you can do."

What can we do? Any thoughts? He is not really very rational, and not really very reasonable...

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HollowTalk · 11/07/2021 22:22

Does he have ADHD, do you think?

Are you certain he's no longer taking anything?

Is his girlfriend a good influence? If he goes to court would she dump him? That might be a lesson for him.

GoWalkabout · 11/07/2021 22:29

I also think you should both look at adhd diagnosis and see if he relates to any of it. You did a great job dealing with his disclosure of addiction and substance use, now keep going on this road of self understanding. His brain will be gaining maturity too if this is more about the teenage brain.

Auxurdeu · 11/07/2021 22:30

I cant be sure he does not have ADHD, but it was ruled out a few years ago. He was diagnosed with OCD. His OCD is much better, it has been much better for the last two years.

I cant be sure he is not still taking something. I dont trust him any longer. He was able to fool us for a long time.
He has changed a lot in the last 6 months.

I am not sure what would happen if he went to court. I think his girl friend is a good influence. She did not like that he was drinking. But, I am not sure of that either.

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GoWalkabout · 11/07/2021 22:35

Also what is he doing post 16? What are his aims? I would say 'you are free to make bad decisions but I will not give it the OK and I will report you.' And be sure that you do. There might be a certain amount of kicking against the boundaries to see how secure they are. I would talk to someone in the youth offending team actually, they have programmes and expertise to offer to teenagers at risk of taking the wrong path.

Auxurdeu · 11/07/2021 22:41

My husband and I have gone to counceling for parents of troubled teens and been offered a special counceling service directed at our family, where the therapist come to our home for two sessions per week. It is a type of CBT directed at the teen to help him reason through his choices. (We are not in the UK )

He wants to be an electrician and has applied to college for doing this. I think it would suit him. He does not want to do A levels and go down the UNI route. It is not for everybody.

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Auxurdeu · 11/07/2021 22:44

I am an hour ahead. I need to get to bed. (Please dont roast me by morning. )

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Cowbells · 11/07/2021 22:50

"If you want let me ride this bike with an illegally fitted engine then I will become a drug addict again, and there is nothing you can do."

What would happen if when he says something like this, you don't react emotionally but ask, as if you are intrigued but not upset, 'Really? Do you genuinely think that's the only option available to you?' Try whenever you can to get him to think about the choices he can make and their outcomes - make it as long and thorough a conversation, led by him, as you can get him to have with you.

Show concern for his mood and his health with a focus on healthy eating and exercise and see if you can encourage him to agree to some physical challenge like training for a triathlon or marathon. Maybe look up some recipes for healthy nutrition and encourage him to cook them.

It's been such a horrendous time for his age group, it's no wonder they are going off the rails. But he talks to you. He admits where he is going wrong to you, which is a sign you must be a good mum who he trusts and communicates with. Imo, that's the most important thing and a really positive sign that you can overcome this.

Yolande7 · 11/07/2021 23:05

Have you contacted Young Minds? If not, you might want to do that. You will need to try often though, they are very busy.

I would also contact CAMHS and possibly try to get him on medication for his OCD and depression, so he does not need to self-medicate with alcohol and weed.

He is an adolescent and his brain is undergoing massive changes.

OhNoNoNoNoNo · 11/07/2021 23:06

The pandemic has been a very difficult time for everyone but I really feel
For teens.

Its Great that he has an interest in electronic and that he wants to be an
Electrician. Is the anyway you can help
him to get more excited by this and help
Him to be looking forward to the future.
Maybe take him to the local
Collage that offers the course or get him some work experience. (Sorry I've not explained that well but I hope you understand)

lljkk · 12/07/2021 20:30

Hi Auxurdeu. No roasting from me. I feel for you.

it's so big I wouldn't know where to start if I were you. I imagine making a list of things that I could feasibly do in this situation and trying to concentrate on just 4 or 5 of them as daily actions. I couldn't remember to do more than that. The 4-5 things might be below, or maybe there are better priorities when you think about it. Do look after own sanity, too.

  1. Just try to get him to talk to me daily. Be someone he wants to share any random though he has with.

I'm impatient... that's not so bad a trait. :). Impatience can turn into ambition. People with ambition are less likely to scupper their plans -- they have plans they don't want to ruin.

  1. I'd remove all alcohol in my house. You can't control what he has completely, but that way I'd know I didn't facilitate access.
  1. Cultivate the girlfriend as an ally, if she is seeming like a good influence.
  1. I wouldn't be thrilled about the motorbike but would think about making that interest into a productive aspirational activity.
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