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Verbally abusive 18 year old

11 replies

Pebstk · 08/07/2021 08:47

I have posted about my son before - he was a physically abusive school refuser and drug taker. We went through a living hell for a number years 14-17.

He is now 18. He has lived at my mums for a year or so. Between us we just about kept him in school and he look likely to have achieved good A Levels. He has got a good full time office job since leaving school and has a girlfriend. He still smokes some dope but no other drug use. Sounds like a success story. However it is not.

We have long suspected autism but he would not cooperate for any diagnosis. He is no longer physically abusive but he is verbally abusive fairly constantly to my mom and I. He makes constant demands and if these are not immediately met or met to his satisfaction) by my mum (food, lifts etc) he flies into a rage. He was sweating at work and came to our house at lunchtime to get deodorant. We were just back from holiday and it was all in the cases - we were out and weren’t expecting him - he phoned and messages me tirades of abuse calling us ‘dirty c...ts’. He apologised but next day same again. His dad no longer engages with him at all as he was physically badly assaulted by him in the past and isn’t very well.

I think we need to force him to move out of my mums as I am worried sick about her. We have said we will pay half each rent for an apartment for him. He is of course refusing any co-operation and says let’s see you get me out. I don’t want involve the police and maybe lose him his job etc. Threats of police etc do no good.

Just looking for any advice- very tired and destroyed by years of this.

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Pebstk · 08/07/2021 08:48

Sorry meant to add I cannot have him home due to having young children in the house and not wanting him around them - though he is actually kind to them when he sees them.

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Shmithecat2 · 08/07/2021 08:49

You don't have much choice - get him removed by the police or continue to let him abuse you and your mum. If the thought of free rent or threats of police won't work, what else can you do?

Christmasfairy2020 · 08/07/2021 20:47

What is he like with his gf. Sounds like a potential narsasistic abusive partner with social services involved and you taking on his kids (when they have them)

No chance would he be speaking to me like this. The locks would be changed.

AssassinatedBeauty · 08/07/2021 21:03

What does he do at work if he doesn't get his way immediately? I bet he doesn't verbally abuse his colleagues and boss. I wouldn't offer more than a deposit for a flat, and I would give him notice to leave your mums with a deadline. Then get help to move him out on the day if he resists. He's an adult, he has a full time job. He shouldn't be in a position to abuse you and your mum constantly like you describe.

Hegartyhell · 09/07/2021 08:21

Give him a warning to move out and if he doesn't, organise a flat and when he's at work one day, move all his stuff there and then change all the locks. Give the landlord 3/6 months notice (depending on the minimum rental) and tell your son that he has 3 /6 months to take over the rent or he will have to leave as you will not be paying longer than that.

Pebstk · 09/07/2021 09:29

Thank for the comments - I suppose I feel that there might be an undiagnosed condition driving his behaviour.

He is at present nice as pie with his girlfriend.

At school however he struggled with temper, attendance etc. He definitely has high levels of anxiety which may drive the behaviour. He is only 5 weeks into his job - so I suppose we will need to see.

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Justilou1 · 09/07/2021 09:35

I suspect his behaviour is far too well-controlled to be autism. I think you are dealing with Borderline Personality Disorder. His behaviour is dangerous and while I agree he needs to be removed from your mother’s place, that has to be her decision. I think you need to stop engaging with him at all and make it clear it is because of his intimidating and abusive behaviour. Look up “Grey Rock Technique” (or Method) and learn how to not bite back. If you suspect that your mother IS being abused (especially physically or financially) then you are in a position to call the police, but I expect that she will lie and say that he’s innocent.

Justilou1 · 09/07/2021 09:36

Also, stop buying into the excuses… anxiety, depression, etc. He needs to be accountable. Lots of people have anxiety and are not abusive.

BunnyRuddington · 09/07/2021 10:32

Does your DM want him to move out?

Pebstk · 11/07/2021 16:57

Yes she wants him to go - but then he got upset etc and she worries and feels bad for him

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AlfonsoTheMango · 11/07/2021 17:44

Doesn't sound like autism but other some other issue.

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