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Can anyone tell what a section 2 in relation to a child mean

28 replies

Sadless · 09/04/2021 17:25

Does anyone know?

Any advice

Sal

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Thornrose · 09/04/2021 17:26

I think it's a section under the mental health Act.

YellowPurple · 09/04/2021 17:27

Can you google?

Thornrose · 09/04/2021 17:28

Do they have a mental health issue and need to go to hospital?

hiredandsqueak · 09/04/2021 17:29

From google it appears to relate to child abduction. Does that fit op?

Russell19 · 09/04/2021 17:36

Not sure about specifically to a child but section 2 of the mental health act refers to being admitted for assessment or treatment.

Sadless · 09/04/2021 17:54

I have been trying it on Google but it comes up with mental health stuff. Been told today that my son is moving in with someone with a section 2 profile. Someone said it's related to the person's name being put on another child case. Can't find much about it.

Sal

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LemonRoses · 09/04/2021 19:12

Depends on the piece of legislation you are referring to.

Section 2 of the Mental Health Act is about admitting for assessment with a 28 day time limit.

Section 2 of the Children Act 1989 is about parental responsibility

Section 2 of the Mental Capacity Act applies to those over sixteen and relates to their ability to make specific decisions.

Section 2 of PACE is around the police right to search.

All could apply to a child.

LemonRoses · 09/04/2021 19:13

Sounds like it might be about them having parental responsibility but the best thing would be to go back to the person who said it and ask.

Hellocatshome · 09/04/2021 19:17

How old is your son, is he an adult moving in with an adult? Does your son hve any vulnerability?

IVFdreams2021 · 09/04/2021 19:19

Do you mean schedule 1?

Sadless · 09/04/2021 19:21

I have spoke to a social worker she told me that this man has been accused of sexual assault by 3 children. My son goes to this man's house and wants to move in. I was told I needed to put a section 2 on my son to stop him moving in with him or going to his house.
Then she said that he wasn't charged so I can't ask for a section 2 and my son maybe allowed to move in and I can't stop him.
She always said that the man's name was on a child's file.
Confused

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newnamenewposts · 09/04/2021 19:22

It may well have been 'schedule 2' relates to a sex offender

Babysharkdoodoodood · 09/04/2021 19:23

How old is your don?

Babysharkdoodoodood · 09/04/2021 19:23

*son

Hellocatshome · 09/04/2021 20:51

Who is this man in relation to your son? Why does your son want to move in with him? How old is your son? Do you have a social worker normally or has she sought you out to give you this information?

Sadless · 09/04/2021 23:14

My son is 16 and just started working for this man. My son told her he wanted to move in with him and she said she would have to do checks. He has been told to stay away for the job while they check this man. I got a call today saying I need to ask for a section 2 because he's a risk to children.
Then 2 hours later she rings and says that he could still go living with him because it's only accused. He wasn't arrested for a crime but she said he had teenagers working for him he was letting them get drunk and smoke weed. She said she doesn't think my son is at danger now but could be in the future. Then says she's doing an assessment on him to live with him.

They tell u different things all the time

Sal

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YellowPurple · 10/04/2021 15:23

Does your son currently live with you?

Will he be moving in ‘as a friend’ or as a relationship?

How did social services know that your son was going to move in with this person, at 16, im surprised they have done checks

SewVeryLazy · 10/04/2021 15:44

It's not a term we use but it sounds like it could be a CAWN (child abduction warning notice), which makes use of section 2 of the child abduction act 1984. They are used by police to stop adults having contact with children and young people that they might try to exploit or abuse

Sadless · 10/04/2021 16:28

He is living in a care home at the moment with the plan of coming back home. But he started working for this man about 10 days ago. Then I find out that he's been offered for him to move in with him and he's boyfriend. I didn't like the idea and told his social worker that she said we'll will do checks and a assessment. My son has stopped speaking to me he said first that I don't want what's best to don't want him happy. The social worker said he wasnt allowed to go to work with this man till they had done some checks because they found out he had been in prison before.
Yesterday I get a phone call from care home saying he said he was meeting a friend local but hadn't return. She told me this man is a risk to children so isn't allowed there. So they sent people from care home to make him return and he refused. The care home wanted me to go and see if I could make him go back. I got there a the people from the care home where waiting outside for him and had called the police because he wouldn't come out. I rang the social worker she told me if the police arrived to ask for a section 2. The police came and the social worker arrived and I was told that a section 2 couldn't be done. Then I got a phone call off the social worker saying she had spoken to this man and was carrying on with the assessment on him for my son to go live with him.
I have never heard of a section 2 but this man said he had been accused by 2 children of stuff.
The social worker said his name was on these children's file which they used to work for him.
She said these children where given drink and drugs and he might be a risk in the future. But shes still doing the assessment.

Sal

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Hellocatshome · 10/04/2021 16:47

Oh goodness that sounds like a nightmare situation for you. As he is a care leaver you/the social workers might actually be in a better position to stop this happening than if he had not been.

Sadless · 10/04/2021 16:56

I was told that by the care home staff yesterday that he wouldn't just be able to sign himself out. They would have to make sure he has somewhere safe to go but this man doesn't seem safe to me and they are still going ahead with assessments. At first I was bothered he wouldn't attend school then college now I have to worry that he might get drugged and raped.
I have no idea what to do my son won't listen and this man sounds like a groomer to me.
I am scared of what's going to happen if the social let him moved in.

Sal

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ArsenicNLace · 12/04/2021 09:26

I've never heard it called a section 2 (but it may be in other parts of the country but having read the circumstances I would have thought you were being told to request a Child Abduction Warning Notice. Usually you can't do it for 16s and above but if he's in local authority care they can be requested for 16 & 17 year olds.

This explains it pretty well (but you don't need a solicitor the police issue the warnings.

raydensolicitors.co.uk/blog/what-is-a-child-abduction-warning-notice-2/

Sadless · 12/04/2021 09:36

It probably is one of them I have never heard of a section 2. I was asked to ask for one as I still have parental responsibility but the social worker seemed to change her mind a few hours later. I just don't know what I am supposed to do now. The social worker said she wants to get to know this man better to see if it's a suitable place for my son but after telling me that there's no way I would agree to it. But as usual the social will do what they want.
My son is refusing to speak to me now he's only interested in this man and working for him.

Sal

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Justilou1 · 12/04/2021 12:03

That in itself is a terrifying concept. I would be petrified that this man (and his DP) are grooming my child. Have you mentioned this to the social worker?

Sadless · 12/04/2021 13:02

Yes she knows because she is the one who said that my son could get raped in the future that was her words. Then telephone called 2 hours later saying this man wasn't charged with anything so its only accused. So that apparently makes the difference to her doing an assessment for him to live with this man.
They know he's been accused and some children's parents have obviously got these section 2 because they didn't like something about what was going on. Maybe to keep the groomed children away from him but for some reason itcmight be safe for my son.
My son has took this man's side over his family so I can't speak to him and he seems pretty sure he wants to move in with him.
Plus he has only this man 2 weeks tomorrow.

Sal

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