Getting up during lockdown

[PeteJ]

Hi. I'm Pete I'm new here. Single dad with 3 children. Wanted to find some advice please.
With lockdown and routines. I am aware of the effects to mental health lockdown has on us all. With my children l find it incredibly difficult to get them up in the morning. Do you think it better that l try to get them up as l would on a normal school day? We are in day 2 of lockdown and my daughter (12) is already of the opinion that she can just stay in bed. I have enough trouble getting her up to physically go to school. It doesn't help that the school she is at seems to only set work that needs to be submitted by the week's end. My son (15) is up but she is such hard work.
I don't want to keep fighting with her as l am aware she has lots on her plate.
Should l keep pushing to get her up or let her sleep on? Any advice? Thanks in advance

@Rollergirl11 haha no uniform, no. We say up and dressed, but they choose the time, which is too early but they reset their alarms when we tried setting them an hour later...
They both like their chilling out time in the morning, TV etc before they start school. They go to bed in time to get good sleep

I personally think it’s mental making teens get up at 6.30am for no reason
I totally agree! But we don't make them get up that early - they choose to, so they can have a bit of time for themselves before starting school - they always did before homeschool too!

If she had emotional and mental health problems she may well be entitled to a school place as she'll be classed as vulnerable.

I don’t think it’s helpful for @PeteJ to be told how great some of your online provision is. He’s explained his own DD’s schoolwork position and is clearly struggling.

PeteJ from what you’ve said about your DD, my instinct would be to go with a soft compromise. Later bedtime and later get up. It’s a shit time at the moment and if a tiny benefit of the lockdown is that she can enjoy a lie-in, then grab that little positive and make the most of it.

OP I agree that you should insist on it being treated as a normal school day for starting/getting up. Keep good habits and in any case schools may re-open at short notice, making the adjustment less painful.

That is true which is something l have been looking at.

I dont think it matters as long as theyre doing a reasonable amount of work at some point during the day. Maybe the sleeping in is what she needs. A routine is important in a way, but not all jobs adults have are needing people to be up early. I work shifts and function a lot better if I sleep in later, but i struggle to and i still wish my parents hadnt been so hung up on getting up early as if it is a mark of being a good person.

There is no way schools are going to open again at short notice. That is unrealistic and deluded, especially for senior school age. We’ll be lucky to see the inside of a classroom before summer term.

OP I really think we are in this situation for a few months at least. With young teens you need to use some toddler tactics and pick your battles, or accept constant conflict. Cut your daughter a break and let her sleep-in on the condition that she does X number of school work hours per day.

@MotheringShites I'd like to think there would be notice, but given the incompetence of this government and things such as the threat of legal action last term, would not be as certain as you.

A reason I forgot is that it will perhaps make sure you know the days of the week, if you are at home all the time.

I agree with the people saying compromise. If left to their own devices I swear my boys would be nocturnal by now, so we discussed a compromise, which is that they go to bed no later than 12.30am and then I wake them at 9am, breakfast at 9.30 (which I make for them) and start work at 10 (the reality is more like 10.30).

Apparently something happens to teenagers whereby the hormone that makes them sleepy isn't released until later in the evenings than it is in adults, and then their all rhythm shifts. I remember hearing about an all boys school which starts the school day later and their results have improved as a result!

Dd2 has registration online at 8.30 (or the parents get a phone call.) She checks her phone to see when she has live lessons then goes back to sleep until then. She has 0-2 live lessons a day. She has to submit 5 lessons of work and tick it off which she does so it's fine.
Dd1 is in the sixth form. She sleeps til her first lesson (either 9 or 11.25 usually) Has 0- 3 live per day. She tends to do most homework in the evening

If they don't have a live lesson they still have to complete a lesson of work and submit it same day.

Forgot to say it's actually form time as well as registration dd2 has.

Sorry didn't realise this thread is a few days old

I would look at what is keeping her from waking at a reasonable time in the morning. Is she on her phone or other devices until late? Is she getting enough fresh air during the Dayton makeher sleepy at bedtime?
My DS has to be logged on by 8.50 am for assembly. I insist that he is washed and dressed, but he can eat breakfast during assembly (which is basically a thought for the day and reminders). All his lessons are live streamed and a register is taken by Google forms at the start of each lesson. Otherwise we/he gets a call from the school. He's at an academy.

Dayton = day time.