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DD worried about sexuality and attraction

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Elv98 · 30/12/2020 19:01

My 18yo DD is worrying about her sexuality and I wondered if anyone had any advice please. She has had a very rough year (haven’t we all I hear you say!) with cancellation of A-levels, worries about getting in to uni, then moving into uni halls and finding it really isolating. Since coming home for Christmas she has relaxed a bit but all her worries have surfaced. Like all of us in our family it’s fair to say she is an overthinker, and she has been using an app to try and help with some success. She is literally worried about everything - and I say that just to put this into perspective. She has been worried about what course she is on, whether she has enough friends, is she attractive etc - she has very low self esteem at the moment and we love her to bits and it is really distressing. She thrives in social groups - not always with friends her own age - and these have been shelved along with everything else in 2020.
She has talked through and resolved to some extent many of the worries she has had, but one thing that surfaces time and again is worries about her sexuality. She finds men sexually attractive, but a chance remark to a lesbian friend about liking a boy’s long hair caused the friend to ask if she was sure she wasn’t gay as he had long hair. This may seem so trivial but it has set off lots of worries, not least because another friend once commented that she likes 'gay shoes'. I know. My DD freely admits she finds some women attractive but cannot see herself being with a woman sexually. She is now concerned that because she finds it easier to like women as friends and because there are older women she crushes on a bit then maybe she is really gay and just hasn’t realised . We have talked about the possibility of her being pansexual and whilst she is open to that on some levels, hates the idea in other ways - because she says she isn't attracted sexually to women. She hasn’t had any serious relationships and wants to join a dating site to try and get some fun in her life, but she is agonising over this. She does not want to put down that she is pan or bi as she does not want to date women as she says she can’t see herself being with them sexually, so I have suggested she dates males and just gives things a whirl and sees what happens. But I am aware she still has very big underlying worries. When I was her age I was worried I found it easier to make friends with boys, I was always into the traditionally male school subjects so her worries are very different from ones I have experienced.

Btw I know this will be suggested but I don’t think this is a case of her trying to gently break it to us that she is gay. I think it’s more that she desperately wants to be honest with herself, and is completely stressed out. Does anyone have any advice re the whole female/ female non-sexual attraction or any general advice of how I can help her or your own kids experiences that relate? Tia

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Palavah · 30/12/2020 19:17

Simply put, she doesn't need to define or label her sexuality, ever.

At her age she is still learning what she is attracted to in terms of traits, behaviour, style, physical features, and it's fine to change your mind. At her age I would have been emphatic that I preferred a hairless chest. Now I love a nuzzle in a chest rug.
We can appreciate the male leads in Dazed and Confused or Troy without having a preference for long hair in real life.
A friend of mine is happily in love aged 44 in her first ever same sex relationship. She hasn't changed her hair, or shoes, or clothes, and still wears make-up.

So much art and entertainment is produced from the point of view of the male gaze that we learn to see female forms as sexy even if we don't have a sexual preference for women. It's entirely normal to have crushes on someone of the same sex, and to appreciate their beauty or charisma without being homosexual.

It sounds as though your daughter is having natural anxiety (especially in 2020!) about her identity. You can help by encouraging her to be open-minded about her own thoughts and feelings, that it's ok to explore them safely, and that this is her time to try different things whether that's friendships, hairstyles, countries, genres of art, sports, philosophies, or anything else.

Palavah · 30/12/2020 19:21

Also - we're terrible at phrasing questions to teens as though they have a huge bearing on the rest of their life: A level choices, uni applications, careers. Listen to a few Desert Island Discs or read a few obituaries and you can see that some of the most interesting people have taken windy routes through their lives without a clear destination in mind. The only way we work out who we are and what is important to us is by trying things on for size.

Firefliess · 30/12/2020 21:24

I used to have big crushes on older girls/women throughout my teens and into my early 20s even. Like your DD though I could never see myself being with a woman sexually. I didn't really give it too much thought though - My mum had told me that was a normal part of growing up for many people and I think we all kind of assumed you'd just know if you were gay, it wasn't something that needed to be figured out. I've lived a heterosexual life and though I can still see that a woman is sexy, the crushes petered out as I got into more serious relationships with men. I think your DD sounds like overthinking is her primary problem, and the sexuality will probably figure itself out if she doesn't worry about putting a label on herself.

corythatwas · 01/01/2021 09:52

Simply put, she doesn't need to define or label her sexuality, ever.

This.

Attraction, sex, love will be about individuals. She can take it as it comes. What happens next will depend on the circumstances at the time- does she want to take it further, is the other person interested etc.

She doesn't have to go and sit in a corner now so people can see who she is. She doesn't have to put her sexuality down on her bio.

And having declared yourself bi doesn't mean you are then obliged to be attracted to random person who comes along. There is never any obligation.

StormBaby · 01/01/2021 09:57

I’ve always found women attractive, in fact my first kiss was a girl, yet I’m very happy in a hetero sexual relationship and have never felt the need to label myself as anything. There’s this obsession now to proclaim ones sexual preference and pronouns to the world, and ultimately nobody needs to know.

JustDanceAddict · 01/01/2021 11:16

I’mImpressed she’s telling you all this for a start.
And yes, no labels needed at all. She hasn’t had a sexual relationship yet and could be attracted to any type of person.
There is a lot of worry around uni etc - my dd is also at uni w MH issues so I get that - but she needs to go with the flow a bit.

Mycatismadeofstringcheese · 01/01/2021 11:23

a chance remark to a lesbian friend about liking a boy’s long hair caused the friend to ask if she was sure she wasn’t gay as he had long hair.

This is why insisting on ridged gender codes is so wrong. When will we realise that people can have their hair any length they like without it changing if their biological sex or sexuality?

If fancying men with long hair makes you a lesbian, then I’ve been a lesbian since Michael Praed played Robin Hood in the 80s.

NowellSingWe · 01/01/2021 11:44

How does liking a man with long hair make you gay? She needs better friends, they're idiots!

BebeStevens · 01/01/2021 11:52

Agree with the others, what is wrong with young people? Those friends are weird.

Chris Hemsworth as Thor has long hair. My son has long hair by choice and was told he was a girl by a classmate, which knocked him, until I showed him a bunch of super hero actors!

She doesn’t sound like she’s attracted to women at all, but does sound like she needs support for her anxiety (have a look at OCD - it can manifest as worry about sexual orientation). You’re a very kind Mum Flowers

Branleuse · 01/01/2021 12:36

women are actually marketed by the media as being the sexy ones, the beautiful ones, the playthings. Its really hard to not absorb that, and im pretty sure that is why so many more women and girls identify as bisexual or queer than boys. I dont think it actually means that all these women and girls would actually want a sexual relationship with a woman.
Its good to be open minded, but you dont have to sign a declaration of your sexuality. If she wants to experiment with women, then it isnt going to mean she has to be gay or bisexual forever, or if she decides shes heterosexual, it doesnt mean she has to close all other doors forever.
This sounds to me like she is suffering with a lot of confusion and anxiety about identity labels that its really fashionable to define yourself with now.
This sound

RiaOverTheRainbow · 01/01/2021 12:44

If this is mostly a manifestation of anxiety and your dd would find a label reassuring, you could suggest 'bicurious'. It's a 'thing' without being a lifelong declaration, so might be useful right now?

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