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Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

Sulky, destructive teen making our lives hell

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GwenderellaBlobson · 26/07/2020 13:42

DS1, now 14, was a happy, affectionate child who did well at school, but he was always somewhat shy and lacking in confidence. Since he hit puberty (which started at an early age, when he was around 10) he has gone through periods of intense sulkiness. He had some friendship issues in Year 5/6 of primary school but he refused to discuss these with us. More recently, there have been angry outbursts and he has occasionally destroyed his own belongings and ours. Even on a good day, we are frequently told to go away when we try to engage with him.

Things seemed much improved in the early weeks of lockdown; he watched films with us, did some cooking and joined us for walks. But nine days ago, he lashed out at DS2 (aged 12) who was teasing him. DP angrily remonstrated with DS1, who descended into a sulk. When DP later tried to lighten the mood and establish a truce, DS1 tried to hit him as well, and then rode off on his bike for over two hours without telling us where he was going. We later discovered that he had smashed up his glasses in a rage, probably during the bike ride.

Since that incident, DS1 has mainly been lying in his room with the blind drawn. When we speak to him or ask him to do anything, he is rude and uncooperative. He emerges for meals but otherwise he won’t engage with us, even when we tell him we want to help him. We’ve made it clear that hitting DS2 is a line he mustn’t cross, however irritating he finds him. We have also confiscated his phone and said that he needs to tell us what he has done with his glasses and pay for a new pair (he doesn’t know that I found the smashed pair hidden in his room). He refuses to speak to us about this.

Last week we spoke to a child psychologist, which was useful, but there seems to be absolutely no prospect of getting DS1 to see her. I’ve been lying awake at night worrying and I feel as though his presence in the house casts a huge shadow over the whole family. I find myself dwelling on the mistakes I’ve made as a parent and wondering if I could have handled things differently. There have been times in the past when no doubt I’ve been inconsistent, not strict enough (under the guise of ‘choosing my battles’) or conversely too strict or overbearing; I have also lost my temper with him on a few occasions, which I am not proud of and which I apologised for at the time. The bottom line, though, is that most of the parents I know have made mistakes but their teenagers are nowhere near as bad as this; in fact, many of them are charming. It pains me that my own son is so unpleasant, angry and selfish, not to mention deeply unhappy.

I think our strategy should probably be to stand firm, refuse to give back the phone until he addresses what happened to his glasses, remain calm and approachable, and just get on with our lives until he chooses to engage, but it’s difficult not to be affected by everything that’s going on. I worry about the effect on DS2, who has a completely different personality. I am also fearful about what the next few months hold. DS1 is refusing to do any of the schoolwork that has been set for him over the summer and I think it’s quite possible he will drop out of the various sports clubs he belongs to when they resume in September; he has form for pulling out of matches at short notice when his mood is low. I worry that, if this sort of behaviour continues, he will seriously mess up his future. I’m also grieving for the sunny, affectionate boy he used to be. Can anyone offer any insights or suggestions? Thank you.

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sugarbum · 27/07/2020 13:56

I have no answers, but I empathise. I have chalk and cheese boys. DS1 is exactly as you have described yours in temperament. He is 13, physically big (larger than his dad so basically the biggest in the household) and has basically been sulking for the last two years. He has however, always been the quieter, moodier one and has always resisted affection even as a toddler. He begrudgingly lets me give him a hug at bedtime but I persevere with that because I think its important he feels affection from his mum (I'm not really a huggy person either) . He resents his brother (10) with a passion and has done so from the second he was born.Nothing is ever his fault. His brother is outgoing and happy (less so since he hit puberty!) and has put up with a lot of shit over the years from DS1. DS1 is convinced DS2 is the favourite and therefore has been short-changed in life. DS2 is certainly easier to be with. His attitude stinks though and I have no idea how to deal with him.

iMatter · 27/07/2020 14:16

This all sounds so tough OP

I have 2 boys - 14 and 15

One of the many things I won't tolerate is name calling and teasing. I grew up in a household where it was par for the course for my father to be utterly vile to me and then say in a mock shocked voice "What? I'm only TEASING". My brother then copied him and made everything even more shit. He was younger than me but I wasn't allowed to retaliate. You know that saying "Sticks and stone will break my bones but words will never hurt me"? Well, that's shit. Words can be really hurtful.

I hated it. I felt useless, stupid and utterly powerless. The couple of occasions I thumped my brother when he was being particularly vile just meant I got a thrashing and my perception of him as the golden child was reinforced.

I'm not sure what the answer is OP. I just wanted to share my experience.

karala · 28/07/2020 09:54

I have nothing helpful to add to the excellent advice here other than to say how wonderful it is to see how supportive and helpful people are being on this thread. It's great to see how wonderful mumsnetters can be Flowers to all you wonderful people

sergeilavrov · 29/07/2020 03:00

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Toomuchwork1 · 29/07/2020 08:11

How is he now OP? Is he still sulking? Like I said I have had (and still have) experience of this prolonged sulking and bad atmospheres in the house in my own household, so much sympathy to you

What sort of things does he like? What makes him click? What would motivate him to improve his communication with you and come out of his room? Maybe a family activity/outing which he enjoys? This wouldn’t be framed as a ‘reward’ (so you’re not seen to be backing down on the negative behaviour), but rather a breezy, ‘we thought we may go out to do this today (enter whatever activity he likes), would you like to join us’
It can be something very simple; in my DDs case her new thing is using her pocket money to buy small makeup items...so I may tell her I’m off to the local boots/Superdrug today, would she like to come along to browse?

It may be completely off the mark but just throwing a few ideas out there so eventually a system of ‘positive ‘rewards’ can be put in place. The sulking behaviour should become something which inconveniences him ifswim

GwenderellaBlobson · 30/07/2020 09:59

I'd like to second what @karala said about all the support shown on this thread, especially from people who have been though similar experiences. I'm sorry I can't reply to all comments individually.

A quick update: DS1 is very slowly thawing. A couple of nights ago he went to the supermarket at my suggestion to buy himself some chocolate; that was the first time he'd left the house in nearly two weeks. He won't join in with any family activities and he isn't doing any of the schoolwork that's been set for him over the summer. He still refuses to discuss anything related to the incident, and for now I have stopped mentioning it. He knows he can talk to me if and when he chooses to. I haven't returned his phone.

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BluebellsGreenbells · 30/07/2020 10:19

I have never confiscated a phone.

This isn’t how the real world works, I make mistakes, and have learnt to apologise and make amends without my property being taken away.

He’s backed himself into a corner without a way out and you’ve allowed that.

You need to be clear of expectations, he got angry and hit his brother, he needs to make up with his brother.

You need to suggests ways he can do that.

Heartlake · 30/07/2020 10:32

I don't have teenage boys but I think that some exercise would really help here. Can your DP encourage him to exercise with him? Workouts in the garden if he doesn't want to go out anywhere? Bike rides together - maybe somewhere away from the immediate neighbourhood so that he isn't 'seen'? Get him to walk to the shop for you and carry some heavy stuff home? All this would help his mental state, give him some 1-1 time with your DP, give you some space. Also he needs to be doing jobs around the house. If he's not going out, there's plenty he can do at home at 14 - wash the car, put the washing out, help with cooking, cut the grass. 14 year old boys need to be physically worn out! This way he can gain some skills and feel proud of himself too.

I would sell it to him as 'the summer where he grows up' - say you'll lay off the pressure with schoolwork and paint a picture where he'll be going back to school feeling positive, healthy and strong, and that the alternative is not an option that you want to consider.

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