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Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

Can I ask a cheeky question...

20 replies

TeoandSophie · 06/03/2020 13:13

Hi all!
Can I be a bit cheeky and ask a question that would really help for a paper I am writing for my nutrition course..... (my son is 10 so I can only assume the answer to this which isn't very helpful!

What is your number one question you have about nutrition for your teen's brain development?

Thank you so so much for your help!! Smile

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TeenPlusTwenties · 06/03/2020 16:12

How can I ensure my teen is getting everything they need?
(just today had results of a blood test back …)

Does 'junk food' matter if they are eating healthily at meals?

How can I get them to eat breakfast?

RedskyAtnight · 06/03/2020 16:18

Does it matter that they regularly skip breakfast and lunch and then consume a day's worth of food after 4pm?

(not strictly about nutrition but ...) how important is staying hydrated during the day?

Yestermost · 06/03/2020 16:23

Does it matter that they eat up to 4 eggs a day on top of a otherwise massive dinner? Is their body craving something? Skinny as a rake but never stops munching.

halfsoaked · 06/03/2020 16:25

They won't eat oily fish, is this a problem? (I think I know the answer but still...)

TeoandSophie · 06/03/2020 17:34

Thank you SO much! This really helps!

And to be helpful back......

How can I ensure my teen is getting everything they need? - This is a tricky one as teens are eating away from the family much more often. Think of times when they are at home as an opportunity to 'boost them up.' A way to do this that avoids battles is to have fresh fruit and veggies available to grab and go. There are really two ways to think about the 'getting everything in' - the first is tackled by a focus on a colourful diet, and the second by thinking about a balance of protein, heathy fats and whole carbs. Low iron can be common in teens, especially girls, so meat and fish (if they eat these) or even cooking in cast iron pans are good ways to get iron in.

How can I get them to eat breakfast? - This is a really tough one! Again, a focus on quick grab-and-go foods can be helpful. Egg muffins with spinach, toast with almond butter and some squashed raspberries... smoothies are also great for non breakfast eaters. But a cool smoothie-to-go cup and include oats and milk (or nut milk) to make it filling.

Does it matter that they regularly skip breakfast and lunch and then consume a day's worth of food after 4pm? Yes, unfortunately it does. This may have a negative effect on blood sugar levels, which can in turn affect hormones. We need to eat throughout the day to ensure that our blood sugar levels remain balanced, and don't swing in highs and lows, which affects concentration and mood. For teens who don't want to eat, try energy balls and smoothies. It doesn't have to be 'traditional' breakfasts or meals - it just has to give some nourishment and energy!

How important is staying hydrated during the day? Ideally, we would all drink 2L per day, but very few of us, myself included, do this. The challenge is that the less water you drink, the less you recognise the signs of thirst. You could try a soup as an after school snack or with dinner, a smoothie with breakfast..... it doesn't have to be glasses of water.

Does it matter that they eat up to 4 eggs a day on top of an otherwise massive dinner? Is their body craving something? Skinny as a rake but never stops munching. - I am a massive believer in the body knowing what it needs. And teenagers are going through huge physical changes. So I would say no it doesn't matter, but yes it is because their body is craving something! I would have a think about the macro nutrients (protein, healthy fats, carbs) and micro nutrients (colourful plate!) and see if this can be boosted. And check if meals are more carb heavy, which will not be satisfying all that their bodies need - they ideally want to be a nice balance of the three. But when all is said and done, kids in the throws of brain and body growth need their nutrients - and eggs are a great way to get them!

They won't eat oily fish, is this a problem? - No, as you definitely can't force fish on someone who doesn't like it! Try different healthy fats, like avocado, nuts and seeds... even dark chocolate. Some nice avocado toast with pumpkin seeds and sesame seeds, a splash of extra virgin olive oil is a great way to get healthy fats in.

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TeenPlusTwenties · 06/03/2020 18:33

Thank you OP. Lots of 'food' for thought.

TeoandSophie · 06/03/2020 19:16

Oh I missed one!

Does 'junk food' matter if they are eating healthily at meals? - Yes and no. Eating 'junk food' doesn't dismiss the healthy food you have eaten, so they should be seen as separate. So they are getting a healthy balance of foods, but ALSO getting some junk food. I would say if the junk food isn't taking over, and isn't the majority of the nutrients then let it go. Or if you want to try for a small shift, try buying 'junk food' that is slightly healthier - crisps with few ingredients rather than teens buying prawn cocktail flavour, or organic chocolate rather than dairy milk. If chips and fried food are an issue, try an air fryer for less oil or make homemade potato wedges. But it can be really hard to banish junk food all together, especially since it can be a social issue at that age.

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Lordfrontpaw · 06/03/2020 19:18

Can they really get addicted to salt and fat?
Can anything help memory?
What about teen moods - can these be managed?

GammaRays · 06/03/2020 19:28

How on earth is cooking in a cast iron pan going to help iron levels? It's not going to release iron into the food that's cooked in it! And anemia can be far more complex to fix than just eating meat and fish.

TeoandSophie · 06/03/2020 20:27

GammaRays :
Cast iron pans do actually add iron to the food cooked in them Smile

And I am not talking about anaemia, which is a clinical issue. But to keep a focus on iron during teen years, it is a good idea to have a variety of iron rich foods in the diet, some of which are meat and fish. If your teenager is found to be anaemic or you suspect anaemia, please do see their doctor.

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TeenPlusTwenties · 06/03/2020 20:35

I can believe that re cast iron pans. After all we have been warned not to use aluminium ones due to alzheimers, haven't we?

ProggyMat · 06/03/2020 21:12

What is your number one question about nutrition for your teen’s brain development
Given the well documented problems that teenagers face in UK society, would a focus on nutritional foods that enhance brian development help towards solving the current crisis?

BoucleEponine · 06/03/2020 21:22

Good question, ProggyMat.

Low iron can be common in teens, especially girls, so meat and fish (if they eat these) or even cooking in cast iron pans are good ways to get iron in

What do you suggest for vegetarians/vegans?

Should they also be taking vit b12 tablets?

ragged · 07/03/2020 05:13

Younger teen:
How bad are their teeth going to suffer due to their frequent binging on sweets?

maybe followed up by...

What physical strategy can I use to reduce binging on sweets?

Older teen:
How much can they get away with drinking lots of alcohol before their livers are screwed?

Not sure why I ask, I don't feel highly influential. Wish I had a question for which an answer might be useful. All of my teens are as big/bigger than me and have own income.

ragged · 07/03/2020 05:14

Well glory be. I never knew how to get bold within italics before . File that one away as useful MN formatting.

Mary8076 · 07/03/2020 06:01

How many meals in a day or week should include vegetables?
Which are the best vegetables for teens growth?

TeoandSophie · 07/03/2020 13:09

Thank you for all the questions!!!!! You are helping me so much. Is it helpful if I keep on answering them? I was also thinking of starting a facebook group to answer lots of questions, but I don't know if I would be allowed to link it here. I answered a couple below.....

Given the well documented problems that teenagers face in UK society, would a focus on nutritional foods that enhance brain development help towards solving the current crisis?

  • I would have to give my opinion here, although if I had a bit more time I could list research to back it up. I truly believe yes it would. In my opinion, there is a disconnect between knowledge and actions taken to support teenagers with the food they eat. It is the main reason I switched to nutrition from education - I used to teach in pupil referral units and saw this disconnect daily. Nutrition for brain development focuses on the body gaining the nutrients required to function optimally - and this means - to get a bit science nerdy - the precursors and cofactors for each reaction required for mood and thought. An example - the synthesis of dopamine, which is the neurotransmitter often associated with concentration and learning, requires magnesium. Magnesium is incredibly low in today's soil meaning we are often deficient. Knowledge and simple steps to balancing and boosting required nutrients, in my opinion, would have a positive effect on today's teenage experience. (Magnesium is really nice to boost with some Epsom salts in the bath by the way as it is absorbed very well topically) This is quite a broad answer but ... yes, I do think this.

What iron do you suggest for vegetarians/vegans? Should they also be taking vit b12 tablets?

  • Vegans - yes they definitely need to supplement B12. Heath food shops have great options. They also need to consider sources of choline. In terms of iron, it depends on their diet. It could be like mine was as a teenager, and be a 'junk food vegetarian diet' Blush in which case a nice multi vitamin is probably worth considering.

Can they really get addicted to salt and fat?

  • Yes there is research that shows a shift in the neuro chemical make up of the brain. But a more helpful way to look at it is that we become used to and comfortable with the tastes that we eat most often - similar to the eating habits of the terrible twos! I like to remember that the life cycle of a taste bud is around 10 days, so it is always worth reintroducing tastes. Reaching for salty and fatty foods is not only a result of taste buds, but it helps to realise that it is not a permanent choice. It really is all about balance - trying to include fresh whole foods, even if it is only at dinner time or only as a snack. And buy any whole foods your teen likes to have available in the house - quick easy options that are easy for a teen to grab.

How many meals in a day or week should include vegetables?

  • Honestly? All of them. The easiest way to get enough veggies in is to have a variety available all the time. This doesn't always have to be as vegetables on the plate though, it includes veggies in a recipe. The easiest way to get lots in is a homemade pasta sauce - you can throw in everything!

Can anything help memory?

  • Yes! This would be more than I could answer here, as this is my biggest interest, but a few examples are omega 3 fatty acids (oily fish such as salmon and mackerel), chia seeds, walnuts and avocado. The brain is made mainly of fats, and omega 3 is actually used to build neurons (brain cells). Omega 3 is also used to make the coating of neurons called the myelin sheath, which allow faster brain function as the electrical impulses actually jump faster down the myelin sheath. (It's a bit like a corkscrew wrapped around the outside) Also connected to memory is zinc and calcium, which are required for a receptor called the NMDA receptor which is associated with learning new information rather than recalling information we already know. One concern I have lately is the copper water bottles that are popular with teens, as high copper levels do have the possibility to reduce absorption of zinc. However, it's important to remember with all of this that the body needs balance, which is why food sources are ideal. Some nice zinc sources are shellfish, chickpeas (hummus!), lentils, eggs and pumpkin seeds.
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BoucleEponine · 07/03/2020 13:24

Thanks for replies.

I'm interested in the effect diet has in mood/concentration as I know (as a sugar junkie Blush) how much it affects me.
[Is it affects or effects?!]

Can magnesium be taking as an oral supplement or is topical better? Can't see DD lying in a bath of epsom salts 😁

Mary8076 · 07/03/2020 15:43

Thanks for the answers! They are useful for my teen dds too, I'll let them read these.

BoucleEponine · 09/03/2020 13:09

Was that it, OP?

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