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Disrespectful daughter

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Menora · 12/01/2020 23:10

DD is 18 this year and we have always had a difficult relationship.

She is very similar in some personality ways to her DF who I left for being abusive to me when she was 5yo. I have a slightly younger child who is completely different to them both and our RS is fine. My ex was highly critical of me all the time and I became very ground down by it. I did try to defend myself but this meant the DC had to hear rows and I didn’t want that

I feel sad that I am glad when she is out, so that I don’t have to listen to the things she says. I very much love her and I am always supportive. Her DF doesn’t do much for her in practical terms but she never ever treats him the way she treats me. I clearly irritate her immensely the same way I did him and I am very sad about that

She is very controlling and bossy. If she is closer to the door than me and I ask her to let ddog out, she will launch into a tirade about how she’s too busy, with lots of things to do and I am just sitting on my lazy arse. If asked to do anything she will demand her sibling is asked instead and cause a row. It is of course then easier to just never ask her to do anything (which is what she wants) but then I do not really want to make small talk with her when she is feeling in the mood to do so (all on her terms) because she’s just said something horrible

If I am ill she is even more horrible to me. She also is very anxious and is always making out like I am highly irresponsible person who is a danger - i once forgot to lock a door, or lost my keys so now she will bring this up daily as an example of how I cannot be trusted. I am sure this is her DF influence that somehow I am just the worst human ever, but seems it was ok for him to leave his DC with me to bring up alone so I can’t be that bad.

I am at the point where I can’t take much more of it. If I talk to her she may make the effort for a few days but then it goes back to how it was. I wanted to try to make the most of this time before she leaves home as an adult but she acts like she is very very unhappy living with me, and really dislikes me. When I ask if she wants to go live with DF she does not want to.

Can anyone give advice how to get through this horrible phase. I go to bed feeling like a deflated balloon every night

I should add when she was on holiday recently without me she sent very loving nice texts to me, so I think she does love me. She just doesn’t respect me and I’m very sad about it. I can’t punish her anymore at her age, as she has her own money and is quite independent. And I am NOT going to throw her out

Thanks

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 13/01/2020 08:16

I have no idea on this one sorry OP but didn’t want you to go unanswered. Hopefully, someone will be along soon Thanks

Menora · 13/01/2020 19:04

Thanks

I came home today with a clean slate mentality, not holding a grudge as she seems to have no clue or recollection of what she last said to me that was horrid as she’s so used to doing it.

But within 10 mins she had been rude and found a reason to stomp off when I asked her to help with dinner, then has since complained I am ignoring her attempts at small talk about HER day. I even went to the post office for her today and she has asked me 4 times if I am lying about going because I ‘cannot be trusted’ to tell the truth if I went or not. It’s things like this

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YeOldeTrout · 13/01/2020 19:12

Why is she still living with you?

I don't know how it is helpful to you to keep seeing her father in her behaviour. 18yos can be bossy, girls can be bossy, people in families boss each other around.

JiltedJohnsJulie · 13/01/2020 19:12

What happens when she says these things to you? Has she had any Counselling since your abusive relationship with her DF? I'm just wondering if Counselling might help her to see what a healthy relationship should look like?

Nillynally · 13/01/2020 19:17

She sounds quite resentful of you for some reason. Have you considered family counselling?

Menora · 13/01/2020 19:20

She won’t live with DF and he doesn’t want her to live there either. She is immature emotionally and couldn’t live alone or support herself properly although she does work and has some money

I understand rude and bossy, that’s not the issue. It’s gaslighting me (things that never happened) and belittling me that isn’t ok - and he encourages her in these things and always has done.

Like I am a bad driver (for no obvious reason they say this)
I lie all the time (when I don’t)

I’m not allowed to eat in the same room as her and she calls me disgusting a lot too

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 13/01/2020 19:23

Like I am a bad driver (for no obvious reason they say this)

What happens if you tell her you are withdrawing all lifts?

I’m not allowed to eat in the same room as her and she calls me disgusting a lot too.

Do you provide food for her and cook it?

Menora · 13/01/2020 19:24

I don’t argue back with her because it is pointless, it makes it worse.

I either just leave the room or say that it wasn’t a very nice thing to say/do and disrespectful

9/10 she will apologise later on, but usually because she wants something from me I don’t think it’s genuine

She talks AT me a lot, which I think is a teenage thing but means our conversations are a bit one way and I can’t always follow them well

But like I say when she was on holiday (with my family) she was so cute and sweet and very loving, lovely towards me, contacted me loads sent photos and FaceTimed me.

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billybagpuss · 13/01/2020 19:26

Is she working or still at school, will she be going away to uni in September?

Dd went through a similar phase although not as extreme, I still tend to not ask her to help but the things that really have made a difference is I no longer do anything for her, you need to get to a point where if you do anything she appreciates that it is a favour and not expected. So no more washing, cooking or providing food. Dd now buys and cooks all her own things although I still do the lions share of cleaning up.

I totally get the liking them being out thing though.

In the way she speaks to you, just calmly say ‘please don’t speak to me like that’ and walk away, do not engage. She will get the message eventually. It’s so hard mine is 21 now and much better although it took a long time and has needed some counselling.

Menora · 13/01/2020 19:30

I don’t want a war zone so thanks it is probably Easier to do as you say and just walk away and say don’t speak to me like that

She is at college and works part time. I split lifts for her and best friend with her best friends mother, the other mum does more lifts than me as I work full time

I don’t do any of her washing, no cleaning, I don’t give her any money I don’t pay her phone bills but she will not cook. I make food for the 3 of us and she has some.

She will do housework but only when she wants to so I don’t really ask anymore as not worth the hassle

She can be so lovely - she’s just really horrible to me most of the time!

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Menora · 13/01/2020 19:33

Yes we tried counselling but as she knows deep down her DF is a huge issue, she’s scared to think about it. She is in denial about his behaviour and very much wants to please him. DD2 does not have much contact with him of her own choice but DD1 seems to idolise him and I think he has done a good job of creating a narrative about me that DD seems to be conflicted about - she loves me but also hates me

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billybagpuss · 13/01/2020 19:49

Also check out the POTS holding onto the rope thread, it’s a good place to grumble about teens effecting your mental health.

JiltedJohnsJulie · 13/01/2020 19:52

Have you had any Counselling for the abuse you've suffered?

Menora · 13/01/2020 20:06

Yes I’m in a very good place in all other ways, and really my biggest issue is that he has puppet-ed one of my children and the exposure to it all has damaged our RS.

She is like him in that she has quite a negative outlook on life, doesn’t trust people and gets stuck on subjects and won’t easily move past them

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Menora · 13/01/2020 20:07

He’s not very nice to her sometimes so despite how horrid she can be I feel a bit sorry for her really. I don’t want her to have horrible parents but I also don’t want to feel like this anymore

Thanks will check the thread out

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