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Ds13 weed

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BadMoon · 17/11/2019 19:19

Hi, I really need some practical advice on how to move forward with what is happening with my son.

Sorry - it is quite a long story.

Ds has always been loving, eager to please and hard-working. We have always had a fantastic relationship until now.

He goes to a very rough single sex school where there are a lot of drugs and violence - there is nowhere else available, and even at the better schools, there is still a massive drug problem.

About a year ago, ds got a new bike and really got into the 'wheelie' culture - this worried me because a lot of the kids who do this locally are involved in anti social behaviour and drugs. However, he was out with friends of his that I know and I am also in contact with their parents, so I let him out, but with some reservations. In the summer holidays he would often be out all day with his friends - with a curfew of 6. I now realise letting him out for hours and hours was a big mistake.

In the spring I found out he had bought some cigarettes from a local kid. He was mortified and apologised. He was grounded etc and then we moved on.

In the summer, on the first day of our holiday, he came to me, in tears and admitted that he had bought a spliff from one of the kids he knew at school. He said he hadn't smoked it and seemed genuinely guilt-ridden. We had a very difficult week or two where he apologised constantly and tried to make amends. We moved on again and he seemed to be staying away from trouble.

Last week, I checked his phone and found searches on 'how to sober up quickly from weed'. I asked him what was going on and he admitted to picking up an old spliff butt in the park and trying to smoke it. He swore blind he hadn't done anything else.

I looked at his phone in more depth and found an amazon app with searches for weed related kit such as weed grinders (I'd never heard of these). I couldn't log in and when I asked him he swore he didn't have an account and was 'just looking'.

He then admitted to having bought a spliff - arranged through Snapchat in September. He swore
blind he hadn't smoked it.

The next day, when he had gone to school I searched his room and found receipts for Amazon gift cards. I put his email address into the amazon app and managed to retrieve his password. He had ordered a weed grinder, a pipe and vaping kit. It had been delivered to his friend's houses. Some of them had been returned because they had to be signed for by an adult. He had also set up Amazon lockers at two different locations locally.

When I confronted him again, he got really, really angry and shouted and threatened to leave the house. He wasn't apologetic this time.

We are now at a stage where he goes from being really apologetic to being angry and defensive. He has been grounded for two weeks and had his phone taken off him. He has accused me of overreacting and 'not letting it go'.

My problem now is how to trust him again. How do we move forward and give him any freedom when he has lied and lied to us? I am aware that if we restrict him too much, it will make him rebel further.

Specifically, what freedoms should he have now? How much phone/social media access? Going out on his bike etc? Pocket money? I feel like we need some clear boundaries now.

Has anyone had similar experiences? I would be so grateful for some advice.

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mcmen05 · 17/11/2019 21:17

Watching with interest found stuff kn my dd age 16 bedroom today dont usually go in and she blamed someone else for each item so I told her she was not to keep alchol for others if they are not allow drjn she is not to be taking it to her house.

Lentils · 17/11/2019 21:32

I hate to say this, but please stop trying to kid yourself. I had to learn this the hard way myself. We all want to believe the best of our children and this is especially true if you've had a good relationship like I did until...we didn't. Anything your child has in their possession they are 99.9 % using themselves (and may well be keeping for others). No teen sits on the sideline and just keeps stuff for their mates. They'd be ridiculed for one, and even if they weren't ridiculed, they'd put enough pressure on themselves to join in. I don't really have advice on what to do now, because my experience has also taught me each family is unique and the only constant is that you need to find a way to mitigate their early dabbling before it becomes a full blown habit. Our kids are easily targeted these days. Snapchat means the drugs come to them whether they are curious or not. EVERYONE knows a dealer and dealers are no longer just some shifty anonymous guy it's usually someone they KNOW.

BadMoon · 17/11/2019 21:51

Thanks lentils. I feel really strongly that clear cut boundaries need to be set in place. Ds doesn't seem to understand why things can't go on the same as before. Apparently I just have to believe him that things are going to change. The problem is he has lied too many times now. He was contrite in the summer but came home and started doing it again almost straight away.

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dadinprogress · 17/11/2019 21:54

Social services/Police provide anti-drug programs if needed.

Please don't kid yourself. 'Wheelie' culture is horrible. They bully kids, and get into violence. The people involved in this behaviour always seem so nice to their parents, only because they don't want to 'bait themselves' (get themselves caught).

A majority of this is around peer pressure. Build more family outings. Restrict phone usage more. Don't allow Snapchat as you can't view the logs unless the messages are 'saved'. You can check messages on other commonly used apps like Instagram as they don't delete themselves.

Lentils · 17/11/2019 21:58

Good luck BadMoon - know you're not alone. Also I said this on another thread too - do call Frank the drug charity. They had the best advice out of all the numerous gps, therapists, school heads and other charities I spoke to. Also, try to figure out if there is some underlying emotional reason why he's doing it. If it's just to be cool you can sort of monitor and put boundaries in place, but if there is some underlying emotional issue, it gets a lot trickier.

NewNameGuy · 17/11/2019 22:08

While I've never been that kid, I did take a fair amount of drugs and owned plenty of gear, and I wouldn't say it's a problem as such.

What is "wheelie culture?" I know chavs like to wheelie their mountain bikes about, is it like skateboard kids were?

If you think his crowd or behaviours are unacceptable, fair enough. But I'd face the fact that he'll grow out of joints on his own, probably, and you'll only damage the relationship if you come down on that too hard.

I would give him a bollocking for shouting at me though

BadMoon · 17/11/2019 22:09

Dadinprogress - we had a family day today. We went to a local event - it was supposed to be fun. He got upset and embarrassed because he was with his parents and there were loads of local lads out by themselves.

This has happened exactly at the time when he is expecting to get more freedom. I am so worried that restrictions will cause more damage than good.

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BadMoon · 17/11/2019 22:14

NewNameGuy - were you doing it at 13? I am worried about the mental health implications, amongst other things and what else it could lead him too.

Wheelie culture is exactly how you describe it! Boys in track suits trying to look hard, often holding up the traffic as they do wheelies on their bikes down the middle of the road.

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bgegmum · 17/11/2019 22:28

I'm gonna be quite honest here and say that at the end of the day he's a young dumb teenager and he's going to get upto 101 things you do not approve of.
Don't you feel bad for it as it's just what teenagers do. I smoked weed and drank at 13-16 then went on to experiment with other drugs (nothing technically addictive)
Is there anything bothering him?
Any past events that may be having some effect on him?
I would give you some advice though, do not take away his privacy. Take his phone away yes, take his internet away yes. But looking through all his stuff is going to make him trust you less and he will stop telling you things. He has obviously told you everything so far as he isn't happy with the way he is going himself and looking for you to help him and advice him on how to stay away from these things. The more you tighten the leash the more he's going to pull.
If they're are any youth workers in your area they may be able to give you some good advice without going down the social work/police route.
You sound like a really amazing mum for caring so much and I bet in the end it'll all work out. Just be very careful how you tred

BadMoon · 17/11/2019 22:51

Thanks bbegemum. I know that kids dabble - but he is so young. I have also seen too many people who didn't move on from experimenting - one of them didn't survive. It terrifies me.

As a previous poster suggested, I think this is mainly about fitting in and looking cool and also having an 'edge' in a very tough school.

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bgegmum · 17/11/2019 23:08

Yeah I totally understand. I too have seen people who have went bad from experimenting and the best thing you could do is just educate on it all.
Kids get told to stay away from drugs rather than being educated on if they are going to do it how to be safe when doing so.
In my opinion weed isn't really anything to worry about mainly because you can't overdose and the only thing that comes with it is excessive eating, sleeping and laziness. however you are 100% right he is too young to be doing all that just now and he may be around people who do worse than just weed.
Really hope you sort it all out x

BadMoon · 17/11/2019 23:24

Thanks bgeg mum - very kind words.

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Whichoneofyoudidthat · 18/11/2019 08:16

Does he have access to a credit card? How does he pay for online orders? My 14 year old only has access to money through me.

BadMoon · 18/11/2019 08:44

Whichoneofyoudidthat - he has a young persons account where his pocket money was paid. We see the statements for that. He had bought Amazon gift cards with cash and used them to place orders to be delivered to other addresses. I have his card now and his pocket money has been stopped.

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NewNameGuy · 18/11/2019 14:57

I was going to all how old, not at 13 but by 16.

Good luck, it's a balance of letting him get his own stupid arse in trouble to learn a lesson with looking after him!
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