Just did a long messgae HELP NEEDED

[jollymum]

OK teen very sleepy. late night last night. App being playing golf today. Came in v aggresive and has fallen asleep after his tea. Held his hand and checked pupils, tiny tiny. What do I do/do you think? URGENT My dad is here too and I can't afford a scene. He has Dementia and also I have two littler kids here URGENT ADVICE NEEDED

Can you phone NHS 24?

Did he eat his tea? If so it is probably not drug related.

Is he saying anything at all? I would call NHS Direct.

It's not kind of thing. He's been outr and to be fair, could be very tired. Is tiny pupils a sign of drug misuse? That's what I need to know. Checking on NHS lines on line now to be fair, can you imagine me waking him up and telling him we need NHS direct?

Can you wake him up see how responsive he is?

Yes tea eaten. Typical teen thing but pupils are worrying me.

Drug abuse can lead to tiny pupils and agressiveness but im sure it's not the only thing that can.

Uh, wake him up??? Taking my life in my hands? He's well grumpy and seriously mouthy.

he just sounds tired?!?

not sure what the issue is? I wouldn't worry about his pupils being small.. hpw old is he?

If he had taken drugs that make his pupils go small he would most likely not have eaten.

What drugs in particular? Dope or coke,important to me to know now which is which..

I wouldn't think he is in any danger even if it were drungs i would just keep a close eye on him and then you can call for help is his breathing gets bad or something.

Yes wake him.

Long story told elsewher on MN, just checking tonight because I haven't checked his eyes before.

Amphetamines and coke and heroin can make your pupils go small not dope. However it may not be any of them.

Extacy,
Methamphetamine:
LSD

Most chemicals can dilate the pupils.

Jollymum, you know him best. If your instincts are telling you all is not right, you maybe should trust them. NHS direct will be able to give you advice on whether you should be concerned or not.

Have you tried waking a tired 17 yr old,, Light blue touch paper and retire!!

I'm sorry if you are scared of waking him that is ridiculous. I have a 18 yr old dss and he would NEVER shout and be agressive with me if I woke him. This is not normal.

look www.talktofrank.com/home_html.aspx here it's called FRANK its great for parents concerned about drugs.

FFS DH is now arguing about drugs/alcohol and saying that DS was OK earlier. Says the biggest pisshead I know

Is your other thread in Teenages under a different name? if so i just read it. I wouls try calling a helpline they deal with parents everyday who are not sure if there children are using drugs or not. My DFB is a heavy drug user and my mums a drug and alcahol councelor so if you need anyone to talk to i can try my best.

bollox kids crying so have to be off now if you want a chat email me.

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yes it is, while ago but things kind of run along until the next episode. Have just woekn him up and expressed concern, talking about maybe getting a doctor 'cos he's clammy and ratty.