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So fed up with attitude

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Endoftetherdotcom · 08/08/2019 13:58

Please excuse my ramblings, I'm yet again in tears because of my 16 year old sons attitude towards me.

I'm a single mum, have been since he was 3. Done absolutely everything for him he is world. I go without so he can have. I don't have any family support and all but one of my friends are married and/or have support from family.

So basically my son is what I'd call a 'good lad' never got into trouble at school, always had glowing reports, I've always been immensely proud. He got himself a job in a local restaurant which he loves and he's been working full time since school finished. He studied hard for his GCSEs and we are awaiting his results later this month. I regularly ferry him 2-3 hours to a location which he loves and what he hopes to be his future career. I won't go into detail as it very specific and outing. I spend a lot of time doing this with him, putting myself out.

Basically I'm at the end of my patience with his attitude which seems to be directed at me. I regularly get snapped at, in fact, every time I try to strike a conversation I get snapped at. I know teenagers are prone to this but it's the most stupid things!!!! This morning, I asked him to bring down all the crap in his room (cups, plates, food etc). You'd think I'd asked him to stick his head in a gas oven!!!!! I persisted and he gathers up all the stuff and of course he drops it down the stairs (by accident as he was overloaded). Cue mega meltdown!!! It was MY fault, I'm a fucking psycho (cos in a rage I switched the internet off)! I'm fed up with being told to fucking shut up!!! I get verbally abused daily!! I don't put up with it before you all ask, I do address it but I don't seem to be getting anywhere! He's told me he hates living here and can't wait to move out!!! Why? Everything is done for him he couldn't ask for a better home!!! I don't know how to proceed? Talking to him isn't an option I've tried the hard approach, the soft approach, Internet ban....... everything?????

Please be kind in your replies I'm feeling so helpless (hopeless!!!) with it all........

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HelloFleur · 09/08/2019 13:58

Hello, OP.

I feel your pain, I hear your pain, and I've probably experienced something very like it, still am in the middle of it. So sorry if this post is long.

I think it is normal for a some teens to want to get away from home, so I wouldn't take much notice of that. I also think its fairly normal for some teens not to want to join in conversation with parents. So I think there you are doing the right thing to back off really.

But the abuse? Nah. Verbally abused daily? Disgusting, entitled, brattish behaviour. I know some teens have a hard time adjusting in life, and lots of teens have "phases", but that really is no excuse for long-term nasty and abusive behaviour to their parents, especially their single mother. Its completely unacceptable.

Talking to him isn't an option I've tried the hard approach, the soft approach, Internet ban....... everything

What can you do about it? Well yes .... here comes the tricky part. Like you, I've tried everything: talks, contracts, understanding, reasoning, distancing, disengaging, everything. Whatever it is it works for an hour or two or a day or two (if I'm lucky). But the end of the day though I have a similar boy DS16 who is fine and apple pie until even the simplest demand is made on him, and then its irritation, rudeness and explosion. I've read all the books, Explosive Child, yada yada, I've researched possibilities endlessly, and its led me just further down the road of walking on eggshells and being treated like shit in my own home.

My latest decision is: zero tolerance is the only response by/at this stage. Withdrawal of all privileges for any infraction on basic rules of home - including respect and basic chores. That means no phone, no internet (ring up mobile company and cancel sim or phone temporarily) until things improve. No pocket money. Remove again for any infraction. Rinse and repeat. If he's desperate to contact people he can buy his own PAYG, whatever, not your problem Smile. I don't know what you will do about his "special interest" though. I suppose you could continue to chauffere him there, or not, up to you. For me, none of this is meant as a "punishment" btw, I'm even past caring now if he changes his ways or not. I'm just not giving him any privileges when he's being so nasty. Why should I?

You are bound (legally) except usually in exceptional circumstances e.g. actual violence), need to house him, buy him food and keep him healthy till his 18th birthday, but after that, if his behaviour is still going on you can tell him to leave, and in fact prepare him well in advance for the day. He sounds bright and together in other ways so he should have no problem in looking out for himself and getting his life together. Like you I've put up with his shit for close to 3 years now, and its killing me. I deserve some peace and a break - and the way I look at it its just over a year off ...

Anyway, this is my latest approach. I don't know if it will improve things, probably not, I feel we are stuck in this for another year.

Anyway, I'm now going to try and have a lovely bath.

I'll cook something nice later and have half a bottle of wine.

For now, I'll try and repair my heavy heart - after our last almighty row - by doing good things generally and keeping going.

I'm making plans (in my head) to try and do some good things when I can over the next year and even further year down the line when he's gone and I'm free.

Flowers to you OP, you are not alone x

GreenTulips · 09/08/2019 14:03

What if a friend spoke to you like that OP? What would the natural consequences be?

If DD speaks to me like that, and she has done, she doesn’t get lifts, or money or any other extras.

She’s fed and clothed. I don’t take the WiFi or her phone. But I certainly don’t indulge her!!

Endoftetherdotcom · 09/08/2019 20:48

Thank you both. I will reply but just home after a 14 hour day and exhausted. Already had an argument!!! Every light in the house was on and I dared to challenge him!!!! But on the plus side the dishwasher is on and he's tidied up after himself so letting it go xx

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Setting3 · 09/08/2019 23:03

OP in the kindest possible way you are behaving like a doormat. You are doing everything for him because you love him and he just keeps on expecting you to be his servant. You need to set new ground rules and stick to them - don't argue, leave the room, leave the house but do not engage in pointless arguments. Ignore the fuck you and fuck offs - they will not hurt you - they are him trying to hurt you because he has no other ammunition - you need to neutralise it by not reacting. Do not help him to do anything unless he is treating you with respect, keep a level head at all times - teenagers feed off drama - don't give it to them.

YesSheCan · 21/08/2019 23:06

Maybe there are reasons why this is not possible, I don't know, but...if he hates living in your house and can't wait to move out, perhaps it's time for him to move out. You do not have to tolerate verbal abuse and if he is working full time somewhere 2-3 hours away, could he rent a room in a shared house/lodge with someone in that location? Or fund his own public transport there? If this isn't possible for whatever reason, at least stop doing everything for him. Even without the shitty attitude, at his age he shouldn't be having everything done for him anyway.

mamaduckbone · 22/08/2019 13:45

I feel your pain op.
Ds, nearly 14, so a bit younger than yours, this summer has become, overnight, a selfish little sod and I am so fed up of arguing with him about the fact that he is still an actual member of our family, not just a lodger who needs only to eat, sleep and grunt at us. No actual verbal abuse but just a general lack of respect that I'm not used to and unprepared to put up with.
No advice to give I'm afraid as I'm currently trying to get to grips with how to manage it and am absolutely sure I'm getting it totally wrong at the moment.
The pp who said they are doing a zero tolerance approach has made me think we've been far too soft and we're wasting far too much energy trying to talk to him about his behaviour with not enough sanctions.
It's so bloody wearing.

Endoftetherdotcom · 23/08/2019 14:49

Thanks for your replies. I stepped back big time after my last post. Stopped doing everything but the bare minimum. Went to stay with family overnight (an hour away) had a family get together all went well. Until DS had a bloody asthma attack during the night! I'd left it up to him to organise his overnight bag, he'd left at home an hour away!! Thankfully family members had spare inhalers but it was frightening! He was humble for days after! Not the best way to teach him a lesson!!! He passed all his GSCEs yesterday so really proud. Attitude still there but no verbal abuse recently. He just doesn't want much to do with me which I guess is normal? In response to the question about letting him rent his own place? He's still only 16, has his A levels to do yet. The 3 hour journey I mentioned is where he wants to go to uni and he's been going there doing some work experience (very specific and outing so won't mention it lol )....... xx

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Endoftetherdotcom · 23/08/2019 14:50

....... he is working full time during the summer 5 minutes away Smile

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What was the deleted message???

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