Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Teenagers

Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

Teenagers and sex

40 replies

Imustbemad00 · 10/07/2019 22:45

Right I’ll try and give the back story as briefly as possible.
Daughter nearly 14 in year 8. Has been suffering with mental health for a couple of years, depression and self harming (which I believe has stopped) Angry outbursts, low moods etc. Sometimes it’s difficult to differentiate between the depression and normal teenage stuff.
She’s having ipt therapy with CAMHS she had a brief period where she seemed better but has gone downhill again.

She’s not constantly unhappy, or at least doesn’t look and act if. Has a laugh with friends ect. We’re not getting on, her and her sibling argue non stop too. I probably need to look at trying to fix our relationship a bit as it’s a bit fractured and I think she feels jealous of sibling but she does generally feel like she can talk to me.

She went a bit off the rails last year, wasn’t coming home from school, done a couple of over night disappearing acts where I had to call the police. This year has been better.

So that’s the backstory, thank you if you’ve got this far. So, she has a boyfriend, same age,been together 8 months. She’s quite emotionally dependant on him, says he’s the only thing in her life that makes her happy. He’s a nice by from a nice family. We’ve spoke about sex, she said she doesn’t want to and she’s too scared. There’s been rumours at school, I’ve spoken to school and all involved thinks they’re just rumours.

Anyway, I’ve jist seen messages on her phone that suggests they have attempted to have sex before, and are planning to again. Also talks of blow jobs. Messages were distressing for me to read.

My question is, what the hell do I do? Do I tell her she can’t see him and risk her hating me more, running away, becoming more depressed or self harming, or basically come to terms with the fact if they really want to they will, and just arm her with all the information about self worth and contraception etc and hope she makes the right decision. Every part of me wants to ground her for life. She’s not emotionally ready for sex.

OP posts:
stucknoue · 11/07/2019 17:35

Whilst it's not ideal you need to ensure you don't encourage secretive behaviour. Ensure you have conversations about consent, respect and contraception and that she must not feel pressure. Ultimately they will go behind your back if you put your foot down so better to get them to take full responsibility and if they still choose to go ahead there's nothing you can really do. Was I happy (dd was 16 admittedly) no but he's a nice lad and loves her so I like most parents accept that they make their own choices

yiskasha · 11/07/2019 17:59

She's a child and your the parent. I'm still early 20s, and I don't understand people older with children in their very early teens commenting that this sort of thing is normal. It's not! I wasn't doing this 10 years ago and I didn't know anyone who was. She'll hate you for 5 minutes, all hormonal kids do hate their parents. You set boundaries, and that allows her in turn to understand she can set boundaries for herself. A 13 year old CHILD should not be sexually active. Tell her you've read the messages and you're not comfortable with it, and from now on the only time she sees this boyfriend is with you or his parents present. Let's start growing a back bone everyone!!

Imustbemad00 · 11/07/2019 20:25

@yiskasha it’s not that simple. I can’t lock her in the house. I can’t always be present. They go to school together, leave school together etc. If I tried to police her seeing him she would just lie and say she’s meeting a different friend.

Im completely not ok with the idea of her being sexually active. It’s actually making me feel sick. It’s also not about me being worried about her hating me, I’m worried she’ll hate me and go off the rails. Stop coming home, put herself in danger, self harm again. It’s a fine line I’m treading.

I think I’m going to have to give her lots of information, tell her I don’t want her to, limit the opportunities and just hope she doesn’t. But ultimately I can’t stop her without pushing her away and making her become secretive.

OP posts:
Imustbemad00 · 11/07/2019 22:18

Ok we had a chat. She had preempted what I wanted to talk about and wrote me a letter, mentioning all the things I’m concerned about. Everything I was going to say, was in the letter. I’m actually proud of how switched on she is.

She hasn’t had sex, she said the messages were mostly just talk but she had considered it but she decided she isn’t planning to have sex and told me all the reasons why not. They’ve apparently spoke about it together and he’s fine with it. She understands all the reasons she shouldn’t. I just hope she sticks to it.

There has definitely been no oral sex thank goodness. She was unaware of the meaning of certain words and was referring to something else involving hands which isn’t ideal but better than I thought! She was horrified when she realised what she’d mistakenly said.

OP posts:
mcmen71 · 11/07/2019 22:38

It's always good to be able to talk or write it down and good that she can ask questions. Tell her your always there to help her.

Arewedone · 11/07/2019 23:44

yiskasha Just because you weren’t doing it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. The most important aspect of parenting teens about sex is open dialogue. Why create a wall that serves no purpose and could ultimately create an environment for unsafe and uniformed sexual encounters. Sex is a normal part of a healthy relationship and whilst the majority of teens will not be having sex at 14 it should not be stigmatised in a way that potentially prevents your child from feeling comfortable in talking to you about sex. If you believe that telling your daughter you have read her personal messages creates trust and a safe environment for your child to open up to you you will be in for a shock when you have a teenage daughter of your own.

HennyPennyHorror · 12/07/2019 02:08

"They apparently spoke about it and he's fine with it"

And there's where you need to make SURE that she knows that whether he's "fine with it " or not, HER choice is HER choice.

Speak to her about not ever allowing things to happen to please a boy.

Imustbemad00 · 12/07/2019 06:57

@HennyPennyHorror Yeah I think she does. The way she spoke was that his opinion isn’t a factor in her decision. She really is actually quite mature about this stuff. I can’t even take the credit, I think pse lessons in school have had a lot to do with it. I never thought we’d be having these conversations so early.
She doesn’t seem to take any bullshit from him judging by little arguments they’ve had in the past. She seems to know how she deserves to be treated and what’s acceptable and I haven’t set the best examples in the past, so I’m proud.

OP posts:
SarfE4sticated · 12/07/2019 07:00

Crikey OP, I don't envy you. My thoughts:

  1. Is DD's father around or an uncle? When I was a teen my dad worked away alot, and I really missed having him around. I often think if he had been around to hug me a bit more then I wouldn't have needed to get that from unsuitable boys.
  2. Can you speak to her therapist? If you have a professional in the picture already is seems a bit daft not to use them. You can't do this on your own OP
  3. Talking to school would be a good idea as they could maybe try to get her involved in a club, or a choir of something a bit more age appropriate.
  4. Can you take her away on your own (without sibling) maybe for a walk, bike ride, theme park etc? Something fun and childish where you can maybe reset your relationship?

Good luck!

SarfE4sticated · 12/07/2019 07:02

OP just seen your update - sounds really positive!

Flossiefoo · 12/07/2019 22:04

Apart from anything else that has been said, it'd be statutory rape which is mega serious and has implications for all concerned :-(

At her age you are entitled to look at her phone !

serenadoundy · 12/07/2019 22:13

Apart from anything else that has been said, it'd be statutory rape which is mega serious and has implications for all concerned :-(

Hmm
Arewedone · 13/07/2019 03:30

Not if it is consensual it is not statutory rape. The law is there to protect children however under human rights law there is a clause which is right to a sex life. Therefore no prosecution would take place if both were consenting and were similar in age.

Arewedone · 13/07/2019 03:36

Article 8 of the European convention protects the individual right to sex.
Although technically under UK law sex under the age of 16 is a criminal offence no prosecution would occur for consensual sex unless a child was under 13.

Arewedone · 13/07/2019 04:32

Sorry for so many posts. I think it’s stressful enough for the parents having to face young teens having sex without having fear of breaking the law thrown in!
Unless the CPS saw it was in public interest it is highly unlikely any prosecution would occur where consenting teens aged 14/15 have sex. Under 13s cannot consent by law so that would be a punishable offence. If the teens had been coerced by an adult then the adult could be charged. If an underage teen wanted contraception similarly a doctor could override patient confidentiality and make a report if they believed abuse/ coercion was involved.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page