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16 yr old ss, packed in job, left home for a week , now back, what next, advice please

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mansfield · 23/07/2007 11:31

Long winded, but 16yr old. s.s. has been working for 4 months on apprenticeship programme. Decided last week he had had enough of our rules (in by 1030 on weekdays, shower daily, get out of bed in the mornings for work) and moved into his friends. Then decided the job wasn't for him (given all the rubbish jobs) so packed that in too. Friends hasn't worked out so has asked if he can move back home. To make matters worse has little contact with mother who lives out in the country and who he sees about every 6 wks for the day on her terms. What do we do now? We dont want him lying around at home thinking thats acceptable, he chose to leave sixth form as he wanted a job and I also feel that to be in at 1030 -11pm on weekdays in fair as we also have a three yr old and we get up for work. Do we give him an ultimatum e.g. get a job by the beginning of September and pay rent or move out or just bide our time with him? Advice please.

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ellis65 · 23/07/2007 11:45

i wouldn't give him an ultimatum,i think it would only make matters worse, and i probably wouldn't carry it out if it were me.

ruddynorah · 23/07/2007 11:47

have you asked him what he wants to do now?

Boysarenteasy · 23/07/2007 16:26

Oh no, sounds so like my younger son, but at least yours made it onto an apprenticeship programme.
Mine is 17 (just). Left school after 1 term of AS levels. Did a little bit of work on a building site. Now works when he can for a man with a van. All his money goes on junk food, fags and cannabis.
Zero respect for us, unless he wants something. Always miserable and flares into a temper at the drop of a hat. Generally awful to live with.
Of course your rules are fair, but whatever rules we put in place are unspeakable as far as Number 2 son is concerned. I dreaded the day when he refused to be grounded and it came, at the age of 14. I feel we've tried just about every trick in the book.
At the moment, we have a bit of leverage, because he really wants to learn to drive. This of course, takes money, and at least SOME contribution from him. He's not rushing to find a full-time job at the moment though.
perhaps we can help each other to puzzle this out?

Tortington · 23/07/2007 16:49

it all depends how you deliver the message. If it were me ( i have a 17 yo ds.) I would sit him down round the table ( formal setting) and say "look, love you loads - but i would be a rubbish parent if i didn't look out for you and your future. I know ou think its pants. its is! I work and your dad works full time. if i could sit on my arse all day - i would, but i can't becuase thats not how the world works. Now there are things you are going to want. you are going to want a car. you are going to want driving lessons, maybe go out - get drunk - it all takes money. Unfortunatley money doesn't grow on trees - thats why the way it works is that you have to get a job. Its rubbish - but unfortunatley it's how it is. You are a bright lad and i am so very proud of you ( mention some difficult time or other)

we are a family. you are always welcome here and we love you. But i really rally want you to grow into a great person, who has a job, a car, and can get a mortgage one day and who knows maybe in a couple of years you can move into your own place?! Thing is - i will help you. We will ( feel free to alter) give you your bed back, give you your meals. We will pay the electric bill, gas, council tax and we will go to work to afford you your dad and your brother/sister a home.

so lets together work out how we can make this happen.
theres no choice here - you either get a job or go back to college. the job can be tesco, or you can ring around using the phone book. you can contact college and ask them if they will take you back on your apprenticeship and i will back you up with whatever excuse we come up with.

you must be in for 10.30. - this isnt becuase i am a draconian old bitch who hates you - its becuase i know that to do a good days work - you need a good nights sleep.

i will do your washing for you, but i require one third of whatever wage you earn as a contribution leaving you two thirds as disposable income to do with as you please.

so if you only earn 30 quid - i will only take a tenner - f however you earn 90 quid i will take 30.

thats non negotiable.

what is negotiable is weekends. i will take you to see your mum whenever you and her make an arrangement.

at weekends you can stay out until 2am. but i always want you home - doesn't matter what state your in, as long as your in. Tell me what you are doing, where you will be and i will pick you up even at 2am - this is becuase i love you and you are part of this family and i need to know your safe.

( i would add becuase i do pontificate on such occasions) Please understand it from my and your dads Point of view. Its not that we are treating you like a child, its that even when you are 42 you will still be our child.

and if your still here at 42, then the same rules will still apply
i love you. your dad loves you and your brother.sister misses you. we worry about you, we do. we want whats best for you and we are willing to bend over bckwards to make that happen - but we are not willing to do it for you.

imagine you were me. have to get the little one up dressd and out - have to get ready for work, your dad has to et ready for work - and then theres this lad who thinks that he doesn't have to. if you were me - how would you feel?

so thems the rules kid - take em or leave em. youshow me a little bit of willing, respect and trust and i will do everything i can to make your life a wonderful one for the future.

now. you need to look forward to something, so 3 months before your 17th birthday you can apply for a provisional license. get your license, keep a job and i will pay half towards your lessons.

hwos that for a deal?"

end with big hugs - becuase the kid obviously feels displaced - who wouldnt when the mum seems so obvlivious to his needs. it takes a mightier person than the average mum in your situation to be able to put this lad on the right track.

much luck

Tortington · 23/07/2007 16:52

Re 14 yo's and grounding - my son found out that its really easy to get out of the house when your supposed tobe grounded - its getting back in thats the problem.

he has on occasion slept in the shed.

now i don't havee the same problem with my 14 yo twins - because they have seen my eldest sleep in the effing shed

Boysarenteasy · 23/07/2007 17:45

I've had that conversation with him many times, and so did his psychologist. Up until now, he just hasn't wanted to hear it. When the psychologist started sounding like us, he ditched the psychologist.
As far as the grounding goes, his bad behaviour is always triggered by a problem he sees as insurmountable, his life is therefore rubbish, and he doesn't care about anyone or anything, so he would just kick the door in.
Hopefully, Mansfield, your ss has it in him to be more reasonable.

princessbride · 23/07/2007 17:50

There is only so much punishing you can do, only so much thretening and also protecting your children...i speak as an ex rebeliious teenager, i gave my mum complete shit....in the end i left home and went through a hell of alot of shit, when i did want to come home my mum turned me away, basically she had drawn a line in the sand, then i lost mym way for several more years, i always said that the mistake was not letting me in when i needed to be, you just have to be there, its hard i know but there will come a day he WANTS to be home. Many would say it wass my own fault that she didnt and yes thats true but then its what kind of parent you want to be , one that stands your ground or one who goes through the fire with your kids and there when the fire goes out ready to see all the new grass grow and new seeds blossom, i believe everyone will change eventually and its great when there is someone to support you.....im glad to say i eventually sorted my crap out myself and married and have kids and just want to be sound for them you know

mansfield · 23/07/2007 19:28

Thank you all for such good advice. Its difficult as none of my friends have teenagers only under 5's so you dont know whether you're being too strict or too soft. Anyway we have had a good chat today and have all decided to relax a bit and we'll see how the land lies in a few days. Thanks again.

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