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Can there be too much studying?

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hosnav · 27/04/2019 09:08

I have an unusual problem. My 14 year old son basically spends his whole life studying. This started in the August of Year 9. He has always had quite an obsessive personality but is also just like a regular kid in most ways - always been sociable and makes friends easily and likes to have a good laugh with peers. He read an article written by a kid who got full marks in IB who wrote that he'd taught himself the curriculum in advance and just used lessons to revise what he already knew, and that seemed to trigger him. The only reason I suppose I am worried is it just seems like such unusual behaviour. He tells me he is just enjoying himself and that the things he used to do (like going to the movies with friends etc.) bore him now. He even studies for most of Saturday and Sunday, as well as weekdays. He is in the final term of Y9 so got two yrs of IGCSE ahead of him, so I am also worried that school is going to be frustrating for him if he gets much more ahead. None of his peers are like this and none of his family members are highly academic. Can anyone reassure me that I needed worry about him too much? Or does anyone have any advise.

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BrokenWing · 27/04/2019 10:57

He needs balance in his life, so yes, too much studying is a bad thing.

I have a really intelligent nephew similar to your ds studied for fun from an early age. Really indepth into sciences, top dux at his school etc. This was his entire identify.

He was so far ahead of his peers at school he went from school straight into year two at uni in a demanding science based subject. Found he was now on more of a level pegging with his peers, struggled to make any friendships or have any social life, became very isolated in uni flat and his parents eventually pulled him out of uni on medical grounds in year 3 (extreme stress causing physical symptoms). He is 22 and never had a girlfriend as he just doesn't know how to interact socially.

Balance needs to include regular social interactions with children his own age and physical activities. I would do everything you can now to encourage these and make him understand the value of balance in his life.

hosnav · 27/04/2019 11:05

I have tried but it is very difficult to convince him. He does do three, thirty minute work outs a day so he does factor in physical activity. At school he does maintain his friendships at break time and is part of a big group of friends. However, at lunch times he goes to the library and he point plank refuses to spend time with any of his friends outside of school. TBH I'm not worried about him socially as he does make and keep friends quite easily - in fact he said one of the reasons he doesn't like hanging out with the big group outside of school is he feels they look to him to be the entertainer and he can't be bothered to do it. My main concern is how far ahead he is getting and how that might impact his enjoyment of school for the remaining four years.

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lljkk · 27/04/2019 14:05

He needs balance in his life. Ask him to suggest ways to make sure he has balance & you will support him in those other activities (he gets to choose them), but he needs to have some, can't get away without any alternatives.

corythatwas · 27/04/2019 14:25

As long as he is getting enough physical activity and social interaction and is not unhappy, I am not sure there is a problem.

Or if there is one, it is that you, and quite possibly he, seem to regard learning as a finite quantity like a cake: one you eat it there is nothing left.

Learning isn't like that: it is infinite and some people are just wired to want to do it all the time, like people who are very musical often can't stop humming under their breath or very athletic people often struggle to sit still.

There is not school in the world that would even attempt to teach him everything he is capable of learning. Once he gets to university he may well end up writing dissertations about a subject that by the end he will know better than his tutor and that is fine.

First of all, I would try to find out why he is spending all his time working ahead of the curriculum.

Is it because he worries that he will not be good enough- in that case, he needs reassuring rather than encouraging.

Or is it because it has genuinely not occurred to him that it would be a better employment of his time to spend any excess time learning new things outside of the curriculum, things which may not come up in the exam in years to come but will enrich his understanding and flex his intellectual muscles and enable him to gain a deeper understanding of the curriculum?

I spent very little of my time as a teenager out with friends in the evening- instead, I learnt 2 foreign languages that were not on the school curriculum, read widely about historical periods which were not taught at school, and immersed myself in literature from different countries. Those have immeasurably useful in my career; otoh I can't say I have ever missed the joints I didn't smoke or the beer I didn't drink.

As an academic teaching in the UK I would say one of the most damaging attitude in education is the one that "real learning" is only what is on the curriculum and that once you have mastered that your only answer is going to be to go to university early because you have exhausted all the learning suitable to your age. No, you haven't. You can learn another language or another instrument or set up a chemistry or biology experiment in the kitchen or observe the mating behaviour in the local wildlife or read up on the Civil War or write a concerto or learn how to paint in oils or invent a new computer language. You will never exhaust learning.

hosnav · 27/04/2019 15:46

Thank you - that is a really useful reply. I was hoping to make contact with someone who is like that or who has a child who is like my son.

I do regularly try to encourage him to do other things but his answer is always that this is what he loves doing so why don't I just let him do it. He is perusing interests outside of the curriculum - for example he has philosophy and ethics in his timetable (that he made for himself!) which he likes to explore just because he finds it interesting.

I am actually a Primary school teacher so have a good understanding that learning is of course infinite and life long, as does he, but amazingly it is my colleagues in Secondary (my son's teachers) who called me in to discuss his study habits as if it was a cause for concern that he'd decided to stop going to the mall on Friday evenings! Well, it was one teacher in particular whose son is in my son's year and apparently her son had said to her how weird it was, and she then pulled me aside about it - which is part of the reason I began to worry if I should be worried!

My concern is not that he will exhaust the curriculum, but just if he will be bored at school during IGCSE. I know his teachers should differentiate for him, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they will.

It has already been suggested that he take his Science IGCSEs early, in Y10, but his answer was it wouldn't bother him either way as he'd still study Science, whether or not he'd done the IGCSE.

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